The girl's not playing with a full deck, Giles. She has almost no deck. She has a three.

Buffy ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Amy - Jul 25, 2005 4:49:09 pm PDT #2782 of 10002
Because books.

In New Jersey, a lot of people (well, wealthy people) had houses down the shore. And some families had places in the Poconos.

They were the exception, rather than the rule, though, at least among my friends.


brenda m - Jul 25, 2005 4:50:20 pm PDT #2783 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

In southern Ontario they have them in less-southern Ontario.


§ ita § - Jul 25, 2005 4:50:30 pm PDT #2784 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

In Quebec, people had places up north. I'm not quite sure I'm the sort of person who'd have a second home anywhere other than Jamaica without having CRAPLOADS of money.

Huh. Now that I've typed that ... I wonder how much modest not-on-the-beach property costs in Ja?


§ ita § - Jul 25, 2005 4:54:52 pm PDT #2785 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

kashi: Who wants to go in on it with me?


brenda m - Jul 25, 2005 4:56:28 pm PDT #2786 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

The thing with the cabins, though, and I'm guessing many of the places in Maine and even on the shore, is that they're not locations where many people would want to live year round. Many of them (for the Wisconsin/Ontario/etc. ones, anyway) don't have services year round like snow removal. So cost-wise, it's a lot more plausible for people without bags of money than it would be in more temperate climes.


DXMachina - Jul 25, 2005 4:56:51 pm PDT #2787 of 10002
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

In New Jersey, a lot of people (well, wealthy people) had houses down the shore. And some families had places in the Poconos.

Yup, my parents bought land in the Poconos when I was a kid with an eye to doing just that. Never followed through, though.

Rhode Island does the shore thing, too. And Mass. has the Cape.


Amy - Jul 25, 2005 5:00:14 pm PDT #2788 of 10002
Because books.

And for a long time, in New Jersey, no one wanted to be at the shore. So some forward-looking beach-lovers bought shore places long before the prices skyrocketed. It's hard to even find a place to rent reasonably now, much less buy.

My favorite was a house right. on. the. beach. in Bayhead that friends of my parents bought when he retired from teaching math. It was a ramshackle basic Victorian, and it *was* before shore houses were fashionable, so they bought it cheap. It had at least five bedrooms, all with slatted *breeze* door and transoms, and the back ones had balconies overlooking the ocean. I loved that place. Oh, and they named it the Aftermath. They'd probably get close to a million for it now.


DXMachina - Jul 25, 2005 5:01:26 pm PDT #2789 of 10002
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

So cost-wise, it's a lot more plausible for people without bags of money than it would be in more temperate climes.

As opposed to Rhody, where the value of those summer homes is going through the roof, forcing a lot of folks to sell homes that have been in their family for generations, because they just can't afford the taxes anymore.

Another thing that happens here is that URI is close to the shore, so a lot of folks rent their houses to students in the winter.


bon bon - Jul 25, 2005 5:02:01 pm PDT #2790 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I'm thinking of buying a weekend home upstate. Strangely enough, few people in Phoenix had them, but I think it's relative to how close comfortable weather (or a freaking beach) is to your city. There's a million weekend homes within 2-3 hours of NYC.


juliana - Jul 25, 2005 5:03:17 pm PDT #2791 of 10002
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

People here in the Cities have Up North, which includes everything from the Boundary Waters to Lake Superior. Some people go over to South Dakota.