Willow: Yes. Hi. You must be Angel's handsome, yet androgynous, son. Connor: It's Connor. Willow: And the sneer's genetic. Who knew?

'A Hole in the World'


Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DXMachina - Jul 22, 2005 10:17:15 am PDT #2200 of 10002
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I particularly like the Gibson and the Schoendist.

Yeah, the Schoendienst one is fabulous.


Anne W. - Jul 22, 2005 10:17:51 am PDT #2201 of 10002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I particularly like the Gibson and the Schoendist. Wow.

The Gibson one is probably my favorite of the baseball statues. He said the hardest part was figuring out how to brace the thing so he could get the effect of the follow-through off the mound.


tommyrot - Jul 22, 2005 10:19:25 am PDT #2202 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I was allowed to watch Love Boat and Fantasy Island, but not Montey Python or Saturday Night Live. I was also not allowed to have comic books or Mad Magazine.


Kalshane - Jul 22, 2005 10:20:15 am PDT #2203 of 10002
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

There's a distribution center in Chicago, which means there must be ice cream parlors that carry it.

Thanks, Maria. I'll look into it.

Maybe I'll go do a flavor check for Kalshane later.

Shiny!

I also continue to be amused, or is it outraged, by the fact that the whole point of GTA is killing people and dealing drugs and other sorts of crime, and yet it's the sex download that everyone's up in arms about. I mean, right?!?

Well, the problem is the code was already in the game, the hack just unlocks it. So the question becomes why was it even there in the first place?

Still, the game is rated M, and while the additional content would bump it up to AO (Adults Only), it's not like the game was about hugs and puppies in the first place, so no one really should be that surprised.

The problem is a lot of parents don't pay attention. They think "video games are for kids" and are outraged when their pre-conceptions are shattered, despite the clear labeling on the box. (My copy of Halo 2 has the "M: Mature 17+" label on the front, while on the back the label is expanded with "Blood and Gore. Violence". Likewise, my copy of BtVS has "T: Teen" on the front and "Blood and Gore, Mild Language, Suggestive Themes" on the back. I've never played any of the GTA games, though I've watched friends and relatives play them, so I couldn't tell you exactly what the box says.) These parents tend to have similar preconceptions about cartoons and comic books.

Growing up, my parents didn't want us to see either sex or violence, but it was made clear to us that violence was worse than sex. Sex was a natural part of life, but not something children should be concerning themselves with.

One of my co-workers, on the other hand, allows her kids to watch the goriest things imaginable, but won't let them watch anything with nudity in it.


P.M. Marc - Jul 22, 2005 10:21:36 am PDT #2204 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I recall my parents, and thus us, watching Barney Miller, All in the Family, and M.A.S.H..

Later viewing included MacGyver, Magnum P.I., and y'know, that's pretty much it.


Cass - Jul 22, 2005 10:21:38 am PDT #2205 of 10002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

That being said, you may have to hit another key in conjuction with the "Fn" key. It's different for each maker, though. On mine it's the "F11" key, but on yours it could be something else.
I'm going to Google for a hint and then go home and randomly hit keys until I get my alphabet back.


Fred Pete - Jul 22, 2005 10:28:40 am PDT #2206 of 10002
Ann, that's a ferret.

Um...non-video-gamer here. What's the difference between M and AO?


Calli - Jul 22, 2005 10:29:41 am PDT #2207 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

M=mature AO=adult only


Maria - Jul 22, 2005 10:30:53 am PDT #2208 of 10002
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

No. We're just all going to kiss you, too.

WooT! I'm a lucky, lucky girl.

Kalshane, I hope you're successful in your quest.

Cass, look for a "NUM" marking or a keypad icon on/above/near the key. That'll be the one you hit.


Kalshane - Jul 22, 2005 10:32:18 am PDT #2209 of 10002
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

What's the difference between M and AO?

Same as the difference between and R rated and NC-17 rated movie. Which is, in theory one has more/more graphic sex/violence/whatever but in the end it's an arbitrary decision made by the rating comittee thing. Also, most stores won't stock AO titles.

ETA: Video game ratings tend to skew more conservative, as pretty much any form of on-screen nudity will get an AO rating, I believe.

Also, there's a big difference in games within a rating. While Halo2 is rated M, it's a lot more kid-friendly than GTA is.