No. And yes. It's always sudden.

Tara ,'Storyteller'


Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


bon bon - Jul 21, 2005 8:13:03 am PDT #1813 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Neilsen Media Research recently released a press... release showing that "people meters" had a dramatic impact on ratings for African-American viewership, as opposed to set-top boxes, something along the lines of a 40% difference. It's not clear why their methodology is flawed, but it seems clear that one or both are misrepresenting black viewership in the ratings.


Lyra Jane - Jul 21, 2005 8:14:40 am PDT #1814 of 10002
Up with the sun

Emily, this is the original article. (You have to pay to read the whole thing, though I bet it's on Lexis-Nexis.)

Edit: And here is some debunking.


tommyrot - Jul 21, 2005 8:15:15 am PDT #1815 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Damn. I'm having a lot of trouble searching for the 80% porn thing (predicta

Try this:

[link]

or this:

[link]

or this (pdf, starting on page 10):

[link]

I googled for 'time magazine internet study' (without the quotes)


Lyra Jane - Jul 21, 2005 8:17:52 am PDT #1816 of 10002
Up with the sun

tommyrot, we should fight crime together through Googlefu.


tommyrot - Jul 21, 2005 8:20:06 am PDT #1817 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

tommyrot, we should fight crime together through Googlefu.

Heh. That made me laugh outloud (good thing my bosses weren't nearby).

Anyway, the best strategy is probably to not use "porn" in your google at all.


DXMachina - Jul 21, 2005 8:22:40 am PDT #1818 of 10002
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

tommyrot, we should fight crime together through Googlefu.

He's a midwestern computer geek and connoisseur of vintage automobiles and penguins. She's an east coast journalist and fan of new music and fanfic. They fight crime.


Lyra Jane - Jul 21, 2005 8:24:28 am PDT #1819 of 10002
Up with the sun

the best strategy is probably to not use "porn" in your google at all.

I used "time magazine computers porn children cover" for the article and "Time cyberporn debunk" to get to the hotwired page. But your advice is probably good in general.


tommyrot - Jul 21, 2005 8:27:36 am PDT #1820 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Another link, that has a buch of links in it: [link]

On 3rd July,1995, (Volume 146, No. 1) Time Magazine published its front cover article "On a Screen Near You: Cyberporn" alleging extensive pornography on the Internet. It was based on a report by an undergraduate Engineering student "Marketing Pornography on the Information Superhighway" (The Rimm Report).

You might try googling the article's title, or the study's title (in quotes, to get the exact title). "Cyberporn" and "Information Superhighway" are terms that aren't used as much these days, I think.

The Rimm Report

Heh.


ChiKat - Jul 21, 2005 8:31:12 am PDT #1821 of 10002
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

I have a nexis sub and can email you the article if you need it Emily.


Volans - Jul 21, 2005 8:31:29 am PDT #1822 of 10002
move out and draw fire

The Meese Report on Pornography was a famous pre-Internet skewage of stats as well. His hypothesis and coincidentally, what he "proved" with the report was that looking at porn makes people commit rape. How he got there? Went to prisons and asked convicted rapists if they've ever seen Playboy or other porn.

I'll dig for more if I get a chance...