They should film that story and show it every Christmas.

Xander ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Calli - Jul 20, 2005 11:10:26 am PDT #1568 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

when they had to call an ambulance for the kid who passed out having an asthma attack because he'd followed the rules and his inhaler was locked in the nurse's office and they couldn't find the nurse or a key..

Wow. This sounds like it would be lawsuit city.


Wolfram - Jul 20, 2005 11:11:27 am PDT #1569 of 10002
Visilurking

But if a 17 year old gets pregnant and decides to keep the baby, there's not a thing her parents or anyone else can do to stop it, regardless of the maturity level, legal aspects, etc.

You mean like force an abortion against the minor's will?


Jesse - Jul 20, 2005 11:11:43 am PDT #1570 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

when they had to call an ambulance for the kid who passed out having an asthma attack because he'd followed the rules and his inhaler was locked in the nurse's office and they couldn't find the nurse or a key..

Good lord.

So, someone I don't know just came in and asked if she could use the phone in "my" office, so of course I said yes, but now I feel that I should seem much more work-like and type-y.

I suppose I could actually work, but where's the fun in that?


Glamcookie - Jul 20, 2005 11:13:42 am PDT #1571 of 10002
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

I hate the fact that girls have to face these issues while the boys who helped conceive the child can go on their merry way. I think that's another reason why I support the no parental piece. Girls will automatically have the emotional fall out of a pregnancy and abortion. Must they also face the fall out of sharing this information if they don't want to? The boys have none of the above unless they choose to (and, yes, I know some do).


bon bon - Jul 20, 2005 11:14:26 am PDT #1572 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I'm not sure a "right to parent" is at issue here-- it seems to be a "right to stop your child's abortion."

Right to weigh in, right to guide, right to encourage, right to support, right to discuss, right to parent. Right to stop? I wouldn't support that.

But you of course have those rights, and they're simply not at issue here-- this is not a law that hinders good parenting, or somehow prevents you from parenting. The positive obligation is on telling a parent whose child does not want guidance, encouragement, support, discussion-- all the way to forcing the issue with a court order.


Glamcookie - Jul 20, 2005 11:14:55 am PDT #1573 of 10002
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

You mean like force an abortion against the minor's will?

Yes, that or force an adoption.


Scrappy - Jul 20, 2005 11:16:49 am PDT #1574 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I truly believe the harm for those teens who are at the mercy of horrible parents, parents who do NOT have their best interests at heart--outweighs the (very real) needs of good parents at this point in history. I hope that things progress so that is no longer the case, as I agree that teenagers would benefit from having support from concerned and caring parents.


Lyra Jane - Jul 20, 2005 11:17:05 am PDT #1575 of 10002
Up with the sun

Although now I'm entertained by the mental image of a teacher trying to confiscate my Midol.

As long as your Midol was in your bag and you didn't, e.g., pop it into your mouth while looking straight in a teacher's eyes and saying "I dare you to punish me," you'd probably be fine.

I think it's meant to deter both dealing and possible lawsuits if a kid had an allergic reaction or the like. Stupid rule, but most zero-tolerance stuff is.


ChiKat - Jul 20, 2005 11:19:08 am PDT #1576 of 10002
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

In this case, it's statutory rape and covered under those laws.

But would Planned Parenthood (or whoever) report that to the authorities?

If they knew about, they are legally obligated to report the abuse.


Jesse - Jul 20, 2005 11:19:58 am PDT #1577 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh yeah, healthcare providers are mandatory reporters of abuse of all kinds.