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SailAweigh - Jul 14, 2005 6:32:00 pm PDT #129 of 10002
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

But we are in hostilities now and the likelihood of these kids getting sent to Iraq are high and that seems to change the stakes a bit.

It's a bit of a crap shoot, no matter what. Yes, we are in hostilities now, but that's not to say they might end in 6 months, 6 years, never. Or that once they're over, there won't be anymore for another 20 years. At least they still have a choice right now.

Jesse - Jul 14, 2005 6:32:04 pm PDT #130 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

But we are in hostilities now and the likelihood of these kids getting sent to Iraq are high and that seems to change the stakes a bit.

But that's what the military is about. I was so annoyed in the 90s (?) when reservists started getting called up a lot, and they were all whiny -- "There hasn't been a war in FOREVER! I had NO IDEA they were going to make me actually fight!!"

SailAweigh - Jul 14, 2005 6:34:28 pm PDT #131 of 10002
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

"There hasn't been a war in FOREVER! I had NO IDEA they were going to make me actually fight!!"

Oh, that annoyed me so much. When I was stationed in Spain, we even had one guy who enlisted despite the fact he considered himself a pacifist and made them let him put something in his record stating he refused to ever fire a weapon at anyone.

Jesse - Jul 14, 2005 6:37:17 pm PDT #132 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Dear lord, Sail. I totally support the military, and I know a lot of people who've gotten a ton of great things out of it, but if you don't want to be a soldier? Don't sign up to be a soldier!! (/sailor/marine/etc.)

Kat - Jul 14, 2005 6:37:26 pm PDT #133 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

True, of course it's a crapshot.

But, honestly, I'm not foreseeing thigns ending in the next 6 months, and possibly not the next 6 years.

You know war on a nice amorphous entity doesn't seme to have a clear end.

Cass - Jul 14, 2005 6:38:30 pm PDT #134 of 10002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

You know war on a nice amorphous entity doesn't seme to have a clear end.
We're at war with ennui?

SailAweigh - Jul 14, 2005 6:38:31 pm PDT #135 of 10002
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Wrod, Kat.

Jesse - Jul 14, 2005 6:38:39 pm PDT #136 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Of course, aren't we all part of the War On Terror when we report suspicious packages at the mall or in the subway? Citizenship for everyone!!

SailAweigh - Jul 14, 2005 6:40:37 pm PDT #137 of 10002
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Citizenship for everyone!!

Yeah, but do we get to choose what country we can be a citizen of? I choose Canada.

Jesse - Jul 14, 2005 6:41:28 pm PDT #138 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yeah, but do we get to choose what country we can be a citizen of? I choose Canada.

Just go to Toronto and keep on the lookout for suspicious activity, and you should be all set.

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