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'Bring On The Night'


Spike's Bitches 25 to Life  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


JohnSweden - Jul 12, 2005 5:27:25 am PDT #67 of 10001
I can't even.

Gronklies, all!

I need to wander in pursuit of caffeine soon. This Demineralized Treated Water by Reverse Osmosis - Ozonized is not satisfying my neuron flow stimulus requirements. A nap would do, but I'd get in trouble. Maybe if I closed my door.

Big local SF con this weekend. Only jossverse guests are Danny Strong and Kali Rocha. I had hoped we might get some Serenity buzz, but Nathan and Adam are coming to Toronto at the end of August, so maybe that's all the availability they have.


Nora Deirdre - Jul 12, 2005 5:31:56 am PDT #68 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Does she know that wives of circumcised men have a lower rate of cervical cancer?

Well, fuck. That puts a damper on one's day.


Steph L. - Jul 12, 2005 5:33:39 am PDT #69 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Silly Nora -- just stop having sex with your hubby! (Do I have to explain EVERYTHING to you?....)

t edit Not to be flip; but I think if you see your OB/GYN annually, you're good, because any anything is going to be caught early.

Or -- just stop having sex, hussy!


Nora Deirdre - Jul 12, 2005 5:34:36 am PDT #70 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Silly Nora -- just stop having sex with your hubby! (Do I have to explain EVERYTHING to you?....)

I guess so, 'cause that would NEVER occur to me! Quelle horreur!


Steph L. - Jul 12, 2005 5:35:12 am PDT #71 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I edited my post somewhat, FYI.


Nora Deirdre - Jul 12, 2005 5:35:23 am PDT #72 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

t shrug

I'll just keep getting Paps, tell my Dr., and keep an eye on it.


flea - Jul 12, 2005 5:35:44 am PDT #73 of 10001
information libertarian

If your hubby is not messin' around with people who have HPV, you seem to be safe: The male role in cervical cancer.

Castellsague X, Bosch FX, Munoz N.

Institut Catala d'Oncologia, Servel d'Epidemiologia I Registre del Cancer, Gran Via s/n, Km 2.7, 08907 L'Hospitalet de Llobregat, Barcelona, Spain. xcastellsague@ico.scs.es

Experimental, clinical, and epidemiological evidence strongly suggests that genital Human Papillomaviruses (HPVs) are predominantly sexually transmitted. Epidemiological studies in virginal and HPV-negative women clearly indicate that sexual intercourse is virtually a necessary step for acquiring HPV.As with any other sexually transmitted disease (STD) men are implicated in the epidemiological chain of the infection. Penile HPVs are predominantly acquired through sexual contacts. Sexual contacts with women who are prostitutes play an important role in HPV transmission and in some populations sex workers may become an important reservoir of high-risk HPVs. Acting both as "carriers" and "vectors" of oncogenic HPVs male partners may markedly contribute to the risk of developing cervical cancer in their female partners. Thus, in the absence of screening programs, a woman's risk of cervical cancer may depend less on her own sexual behavior than on that of her husband or other male partners. Although more rarely than women, men may also become the "victims" of their own HPV infections as a fraction of infected men are at an increased risk of developing penile and anal cancers. Male circumcision status has been shown to reduce the risk not only of acquiring and transmitting genital HPVs but also of cervical cancer in their female partners. More research is needed to better understand the natural history and epidemiology of HPV infections in men. This paper is available too at: [link]


Nora Deirdre - Jul 12, 2005 5:36:03 am PDT #74 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Tep, heh, I posted my second comment before I saw your edits.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 12, 2005 5:38:02 am PDT #75 of 10001
What is even happening?

Does she know that wives of circumcised men have a lower rate of cervical cancer?
Doubt it. Is there any evidence that that's causative? It seems like a strange correlation to me.
Well, if a higher incidence of STDs is correlated to a higher incidence of cervical cancer, it may seem a little less farfetched. Not that circumcision is linked to STD, just that cervical cancer is affected by external internal factors. What I've read indicates that the foreskin harbors the sexually transmitted viruses that are at least in part responsible for cervical cancer in women. Women who are not and have not been sexually active have virtually no instance of cervical cancer. We know that at least HPV is a cause of cervical cancer. I think a decent argument could be made that there's a correlation.

Likewise, cancer of the penis (HPV is often indicated in that, as well) virtually never occurs in circumcised men. From what I'm reading here [link] which tracks with other things I've read over the years, 1 in 600 males develop this, and 25% of the time, it is fatal. The other day, I read somewhere, that HIV rates were lower in the circumcised, as well. I don't know how true any of this is, but I've been hearing about the lower cervical cancer links since before there were internets.


vw bug - Jul 12, 2005 5:38:27 am PDT #76 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

One paper down...one to go.