Zoe: She shot you. Mal: Well, yeah, she did a bit... still --

'Serenity'


The Minearverse 4: Support Group for Clumsy People  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Nilly - Apr 30, 2006 10:35:45 am PDT #9741 of 10001
Swouncing

( continues...) And it seems like Web's tactic, of playing the crew against each other, works - they test each theory any of them makes, finds the flaws in it, trys to patch them or are willing to change their point of view. So it works. And obviously I can't tell if it were better to work as a team, to hash those ideas together instead of this way. At least I can tell it's easily more interesting this way for the character - and, again, it makes it more their stories than in any other "who did it" sort of show I can think of.

Oh, there are other knives, and they didn't find them at Bunch's place! So Madison still has them, right? But she's too clever to use them now that Bunch is locked up and she wants to keep her story? But if they manage to find them somewhere between her possessions, somewhere only she could put them, that would be what they're looking for, right?

Well, no, two missing. Maybe Madison will only use it to scare Nora?

Oh, twist! I was wondering what's going to be turned over (we can't know everything when we're still 10 pages behind the end, right?). And now I'm wondering what the broken-hearted mother may do. Oh, and there's another mention of a mother, with Bunch's mother. Hmm.

I love the game of blame and innocence - Rebecca told Ellen that she was innocent, that it wasn't her fault that her son was murdered. But in doing that, she started a chain of events that may make Ellen guilty of something else entirely. But then again, maybe not. I love it that I have no idea what Ellen may do.

Oh, it's a hearbreaking exchange - the not-false-anymore "I want my mommy", and the real "I want my son".

And I love it that Ellen can tell that Madison is lying. That she completely sees through her. Like Rebecca was able to. And I like it that Paul not only had the hardest time buying it, but admits it openly. The two different parents.

I loved it that Paul smashed through the security arm in order to get inside with Rebecca. It brought to mind the lines in front of the security at the very beginning of the episode, at the FBI building, with all of them entering with their cards while talking, while everybody else had to wait in a longer line, only in reverse. I loved it that Paul wanted Rebecca there with him.

I loved it that before we could see what happened at the pool (obviously, the pool, with the splashing sound, just like at the beginning), I had no idea who had done what, who was hurt and by whom and how much. It could be either of the three, both as an attacker and as a victim. And Tessa wasn't an illogical choice - she was a mother just like Ellen, right?

And I loved the description of the knife falling - it wasn't the murder weapon, it was innocent in this scenario, despite everything.

"She exhales a breath she s probably been holding for a very long time." - that's a beautiful description.

And I loved the "children' conversation at the end - the old mother who got her grown-up kid back, the worry that never ends, even when the child is no longer a child, the constant wish to protect your loved ones, even when they're taller and stronger than you. And I loved Carla's line about protecting the parents from the kids, not just in the horrible sense of this episode, but in general - the aches of raising a child, of changing, of realizing you can't defend them, no matter how hard you try, how you're bound to be hurt by them, no matter how hard they try.

And I loved it that ultimately, it was Paul's story, at the end, like it was his revelation at the beginning (even though I really like the character of Web, even though Rebecca was the one who understood about who was a monster and who wasn't, even though I like the banter between Carla and Danny). The wish to protect, but also the wander about the possibilities of that baby that is growing inside his wife right now. Can you protect somebody from himself? Can somebody be born bad?

I love it that a seemingly-"let's solve the crime" show made my think about that. So, once again, Kristen? You totally rock.


Tim Minear - Apr 30, 2006 1:04:52 pm PDT #9742 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

How nice to read your thoughts, Nilly! FYI, the different colors on the scripts represent each time I made a revision. We insert a different color page for each new set of revisions to keep track.


planbee - Apr 30, 2006 6:08:56 pm PDT #9743 of 10001
I don't think anyone really cares as long as it works.

Each time I finish the finale, I can't stop obsessing about what's next for Rebecca. And how would the Rebecca/Paul angst finally play out?

I find that I'm rewatching the Inside more than Wonderfalls and Firefly combined. Every single piece clicked for me. It's extremely rare that I get along so well with television, especially a FOX show.

Thanks Tim.


tiggy - Apr 30, 2006 6:17:53 pm PDT #9744 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

I actually just got around to watching the finale of The Inside this afternoon. it was fantastic. probably one of my favorite eps. i, too, wonder what was next for Rebecca. stupid FUX.


msbelle - Apr 30, 2006 7:29:21 pm PDT #9745 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

so I did none of those crafts projects I mentioned earlier. I did however start frogging an old sweater, only to find out that I think it was machine knitted and yarn was twisted throughout to eliminate fraying. It is not so much an unraveling job as an unweaving maze.


Allyson - Apr 30, 2006 7:32:10 pm PDT #9746 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Oooh. msbelle, my mom wants a new sewing machine for mother's day, and my dad, brother, and SIL said they'd pitch in with me to buy one.

Her old machine was a relic passed down from her mom, and it finally kicked the bucket.

Any suggestions?


msbelle - Apr 30, 2006 7:39:09 pm PDT #9747 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Allyson I do not know anything about new machines. Mine are both old. I can ask my mom though.


Allyson - Apr 30, 2006 7:41:16 pm PDT #9748 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

The new Singers at Target look like toys. My mom's old machine weighed about the same as a Jetta.


Spidra Webster - Apr 30, 2006 7:45:14 pm PDT #9749 of 10001
I wish I could just go somewhere to get flensed but none of the whaling ships near me take Medicare.

Folks on the sewing lists I'm on generally recommend good old machines over the new stuff. Singer Featherweights and others are tanks that will keep going for a really long time. No cheap plastic parts to break, no computerized stuff that can only be repaired certain places. Mine is a Sears Kenmore from 1965 or 66. Very basic, but indestructable.

What does your mom want out of a new machine? That's the place to start.


WindSparrow - Apr 30, 2006 8:05:13 pm PDT #9750 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Allyson, when I was looking to buy my sewing machine, a friend of mine - rocket scientist for the Navy, whose real calling in life is sewing and designing clothes - said that Brother manufactures the mechanisms for many of the top-dollar brands, and when the mechanisms go through quality control testing, the best ones get put in machines with the Brother name. So there is a thought, if you go with a new machine.