Sweet lumpy minion, you're the only one that understands. Probably 'cause I haven't sucked the brain out of you yet.

Glory ,'Potential'


The Minearverse 4: Support Group for Clumsy People  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Typo Boy - Apr 15, 2006 1:17:54 pm PDT #9433 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

English language telenovelas. A multi-season show with the length of the arc, and the end point planned from day one. Like Babylon five, only now Hollywood has a name for it. IJS

On the other hand, the "film thirteen episodes and cancel after the fourth is shown" bit would be even more frustrating with a Telenovela.


Kevin - Apr 15, 2006 1:28:33 pm PDT #9434 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Exactly, Typo Boy. Warren Ellis claims to have planned out several years of arcs for Global Frequency, and that didn't get past pilot. The chance of getting a pilot picked up is usually fairly small (although if you're actually a talented writer/show runner it does increase that chance substantially). Then, something like only 1 in 4 of shows make it past 13 filmed episodes, with fewer actually airing that many.

I'd rather have a 13 episode arc, with more stuff layered on afterwards if the show is actually successful at the network. I think one of the lessons learned from Firefly is that layering on a crap load of elements is fine, but it got cancelled, and now chances are we'll never know what half of it was about.


Betsy HP - Apr 15, 2006 7:08:37 pm PDT #9435 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Mm, Tim? I was flying AmericaWest to Las Vegas (just don't, is my advice), and this month's inflight magazine had a list of shows to buy on DVD. Their top pick was Wonderfalls, and Firefly also made the list. Do you have somebody doing clips for you? Sorry, I didn't think to swipe it for you.


P.M. Marc - Apr 15, 2006 7:52:04 pm PDT #9436 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Warren Ellis claims to have planned out several years of arcs for Global Frequency, and that didn't get past pilot.

Probably had, too. Bastard has to have been doing SOMETHING during the time he should've been spending finishing Planetary up. I mean, aside from playing on the Internet and posting shit to Scans_Daily.


Tamara - Apr 15, 2006 7:58:26 pm PDT #9437 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

Ellis playing on the Internet and posting random stuff is 2/7ths of my daily entertainment. I hope he never stops.


Strega - Apr 15, 2006 8:03:02 pm PDT #9438 of 10001

Warren Ellis claims to have planned out several years of arcs for Global Frequency, and that didn't get past pilot.

I think you mean John Rogers.


§ ita § - Apr 15, 2006 11:26:04 pm PDT #9439 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, Warren did write twelve issues of the comic.


Polter-Cow - Apr 16, 2006 3:32:28 pm PDT #9440 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I have a question. In an earlier linked interview about The Inside, it said that the finale (or at least some unaired episode) implied that one of the members of the team was a serial killer. I didn't get that from "Skin and Bone." Did I miss something?


Allyson - Apr 16, 2006 3:39:37 pm PDT #9441 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I think that's about Thief of Hearts.


Strega - Apr 16, 2006 4:12:46 pm PDT #9442 of 10001

Warren did write twelve issues of the comic.

Oh, I know, but Rogers was the one who mentioned planning a five-year story. As far as I know, Ellis didn't talk about it like he was actively involved with that kind of planning.