You walk in worlds the others can't begin to imagine.

Drusilla ,'Conversations with Dead People'


The Minearverse 4: Support Group for Clumsy People  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Kristen - Apr 14, 2006 4:57:27 pm PDT #9420 of 10001

Excerpt from Tim's other Creative Screenwriting interview. Spoilers for Aidan below:

Breaking the Story: Showrunner Tim Minear on Creating a TV Episode BY JASON DAVIS

When it comes to starting a teleplay, Minear suggests that story and character "are two things that meet in the middle. Sometimes I start with the plot as opposed to a character, but usually I'm fishing around for a plot that will say something metaphorically about the character. When I'm doing something like The Inside, which is procedural, the crime stories themselves are much more front and center than the adventure plot of an episode of Firefly", the science-fiction Western he worked on with Joss Whedon.

Alluding to "Aiden," an episode of The Inside that never aired, Minear explains, "it was the story of pregnant women who were being attacked, cut open, and having their unborn children stolen from their bodies. That was a story that we actually took from the headlines. We thought that was interesting and morbid enough for the show, but we were also dealing with a character [FBI agent Paul Ryan, played by Jay Harrington] whose wife had miscarried. There were character things that we wanted to explore, and we found that this was a really good way to hit that emotional arc for Paul. It came when it needed to come in terms of that arc [and] was interesting in and of itself."

To Minear, a good story must "be interesting and surprising" and, he adds, must not "rely too much on bullshit. I think it is the writer's responsibility to be interesting and to not lie. You find that stories that you can actually boil down to that one-sentence explanation [the logline] are generally good stories to write." But he quickly clarifies that, "The truth is that a logline does translate to clear storytelling; however, I would also say that it is completely unimportant." Minear explains the seeming contradiction: "Some of the best things I have written, when you boil them down to the logline, don't sound very interesting." "Out of Gas," an episode of the short-lived series Firefly provides an example. "The logline for that was 'An explosion onboard Serenity [the spaceship where the series was set] causes the air to be shut off.' That's so not what the episode was about."

ETA: And that answers the question I always meant to ask about Aidan. The idea did come from the incident I saw on the news.


Strega - Apr 14, 2006 5:34:58 pm PDT #9421 of 10001

Matt! I have a peculiar offer for you. Check your profile address, or let me know if I should send it elsewhere.


Kevin - Apr 14, 2006 7:23:16 pm PDT #9422 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

5 am. Just watched Inside finale. "Welcome to LA".

I think it pretty much answers the initial criticism aimed at the show I saw in reviews and online. And pretty much ties up the (major) loose ends.

I loved this show. It's the first time I've really loved a procedual. I like proceduals, don't get me wrong, but I don't get obsessive about them. I did with this (5 am).

That said, being a child of the BBC -- role on Drive.


Spidra Webster - Apr 14, 2006 8:17:46 pm PDT #9423 of 10001
I wish I could just go somewhere to get flensed but none of the whaling ships near me take Medicare.

Katie *was* very funny on the Wonderfalls commentary. It's not that I don't enjoy principals kidding around. I just like there to be substance as well. Sometimes it's there, sometimes it's not.


Tim Minear - Apr 14, 2006 8:26:46 pm PDT #9424 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

Last week Kristen told me it was safe to peep in on TWoP and The Inside thread. I get special satisfaction from the people there who found the show and dug it. So nice.


Allyson - Apr 14, 2006 8:30:37 pm PDT #9425 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

How do you feel about the show now that you have some distance? Do you have new favorite/least favorite eps that are different than what you loved/hated when you first wrapped?


victor infante - Apr 14, 2006 8:32:16 pm PDT #9426 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I so VERY much need to catch up on The Inside. It was on when I had my cable turned off in a fit of rage. (I called and made them write down a list of shows I was mad were cancelled. Because I'm a prick.)


Tim Minear - Apr 14, 2006 8:39:23 pm PDT #9427 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

They're all pretty easily downloadable on the net, Victor.

How do I feel about, Allyson? 13 was plenty for me. But I've since looked at them again and even the ones I hated I now think don't stink on ice. My favorites are still my favorites, but it's a pretty good list for a 13 run that I had to make by hitting the ground running --

Everything Nice Pre-Filer De-Clawed Aidan Little Girl Lost Gem Skin and Bone

Those are the ones that came out the way I wanted them to. My favorites are sill De-Clawed, Aidan, Little Girl Lost, Gem and Skin and Bone. I still have a special love in my heart for Aidan, Gem and Skin and Bone -- and I think that goes to my love of structure. The teasers and act breaks are killer.


Allyson - Apr 14, 2006 8:48:43 pm PDT #9428 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Aidan, Declawed, and Skin and Bone are my faves. I don't really understand structure very well. I'm not sure why some things grab me by the throat and pull me in and other things flop like a dying fish on the floor.

I think Declawed was the most perfect in the bunch, the most gorgeous visually and in the storytelling.


Tamara - Apr 14, 2006 11:19:18 pm PDT #9429 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

47% of the 13th ep. The anticipation is killing me!