Illyria: We cling to what is gone. Is there anything in this life but grief? Wesley: There's love. There's hope...for some. There's hope that you'll find something worthy...that your life will lead you to some joy...that after everything...you can still be surprised. Illyria: Is that enough? Is that enough to live on?

'Shells'


The Minearverse 4: Support Group for Clumsy People  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


§ ita § - Apr 04, 2006 8:47:21 am PDT #9224 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

the only side effect is withdrawal!

Then why are people saying it has negative effects worth quitting it to avoid?


Allyson - Apr 04, 2006 8:49:26 am PDT #9225 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I think you should all smoke instead.


bon bon - Apr 04, 2006 8:50:11 am PDT #9226 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Then why are people saying it has negative effects worth quitting it to avoid?

I don't know the answer to that.


Jesse - Apr 04, 2006 8:50:57 am PDT #9227 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I think coffee has more negative effects than caffeine, what with the acid stomach and all. I don't think No-Doz gives people acid stomach. I could be wrong.


§ ita § - Apr 04, 2006 8:56:48 am PDT #9228 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Unworrisome and more common side effects of caffeine:

  • Nausea (mild); nervousness or jitters (mild)

See your doctor if you experience:

  • Diarrhea; dizziness; fast heartbeat; hyperglycemia, including blurred vision, drowsiness, dry mouth, flushed dry skin, fruit-like breath odor, increased urination, ketones in urine, loss of appetite, nausea, stomachache, tiredness, troubled breathing, unusual thirst, or vomiting (in newborn babies); hypoglycemia, including anxious feeling, blurred vision, cold sweats, confusion, cool pale skin, drowsiness, excessive hunger, fast heartbeat, nausea, nervousness, restless sleep, shakiness, or unusual tiredness or weakness (in newborn babies); irritability, nervousness, or severe jitters (in newborn babies); nausea (severe) ; tremors; trouble in sleeping ; vomiting

Withdrawal feels like:

  • Anxiety; dizziness; headache; irritability; muscle tension; nausea; nervousness; stuffy nose; unusual tiredness

From here.


Betsy HP - Apr 04, 2006 9:00:39 am PDT #9229 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I think it would be fascinating if marijuana/hashish had been introduced to Western culture at the same time as coffee. I'm betting everybody would have become habituated to its use in exactly the same way as for alcohol and coffee/tea.

Basically, coffee would totally be illegal today if it were introduced into the consumer market. Addictive! Side effects! Performance-enhancing!


tommyrot - Apr 04, 2006 9:02:35 am PDT #9230 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Basically, coffee would totally be illegal today if it were introduced into the consumer market. Addictive! Side effects! Performance-enhancing!

There was some mid-Eastern country that banned coffee in (IIRC) the 1500s or 1600s. They were afraid that folks would sit around in cafes drinking coffee and planning revolution.


Betsy HP - Apr 04, 2006 9:03:13 am PDT #9231 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

They should have just introduced lattes and wireless Internet.


Jessica - Apr 04, 2006 9:04:35 am PDT #9232 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Coffee timeline:

1511: Khair Beg, the corrupt governor of Mecca, tries to ban coffee for fear that its influence might foster opposition to his rule. The sultan sends word that coffee is sacred and has the governor executed.


Calli - Apr 04, 2006 9:06:42 am PDT #9233 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

With all respect to people who can quit it, caffeine is the finest drug EVER. It's cheap! It's on every street corner! They put it in lots of tasty items! It wakes you up and makes you feel better and the only side effect is withdrawal!

Indeed. I love coffee. Given enough coffee, I love everyone else, too. It's a better mood enhancer than booze, and I can drive safely after three cups of coffee. (Safer than without three cups of it, some mornings.)