That's not what making out sounds like -- unless I'm doing it wrong?

Willow ,'Same Time, Same Place'


The Minearverse 4: Support Group for Clumsy People  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Nutty - Jun 24, 2005 9:49:22 am PDT #91 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Remember the good old days, when Donnie Pfaster had to be called a "death fetishist," because the netowrk would not allow them to say "necrophiliac" on air? Good times, good times.

For the record, it's relatively rare for pedophiles to be particularly murderous. Pederasty has more in common with acquaintance-rape than with serial murder, on the whole. Which is not to say that no pederast in history hasn't eventually advanced to murder, but it's quite common to spend 30 years performing child-rape as a Catholic priest while passing in everyday society without the danger of a corpse being found.

Which factoid has minimal relationship with the episode, since it avowedly was mixing up serial killers with spree killers, and probably meant to boil it all down to "dudes what do bad things."


brenda m - Jun 24, 2005 9:50:56 am PDT #92 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I can see where showing kiddie snuff porn on network television might be a little problematic...

Law and Order's done it.


Allyson - Jun 24, 2005 9:53:48 am PDT #93 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

So I'm trying to figure out why the assumption of the prefiler or Rebecca is that he would have eventually murdered. Was it because he had identified a victim in wee Aubrey? But that could have been for molestation, or even just staring at her for jackoff purposes.

The other victims seemed to have a more clear intent.


Polter-Cow - Jun 24, 2005 9:56:34 am PDT #94 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

So I'm trying to figure out why the assumption of the prefiler or Rebecca is that he would have eventually murdered.

Rebecca had a whole spiel about it. He would know his feelings were wrong, and he would hate the girls for making him have these feelings, and to stop these oh-so-wrong feelings, he would have to eliminate what was causing them, i.e., the girls.


Nutty - Jun 24, 2005 9:59:39 am PDT #95 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

He would know his feelings were wrong, and he would hate the girls for making him have these feelings, and to stop these oh-so-wrong feelings, he would have to eliminate what was causing them, i.e., the girls.

I have to say, that logic is unassailable, but also totally generic. You could apply that logic to anybody who has powerful feelings of guilt, and most people do not murder their parents/lovers/children/ice cream sandwiches.

Feeling guilty, and being guilty, and doing something that requires the disposal of a body and a web of elaborate lies, are three very different things. It takes some work to go from one step to the next, and that step to the third state of being is the biggest.


Polter-Cow - Jun 24, 2005 10:01:53 am PDT #96 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

most people do not murder their parents/lovers/children/ice cream sandwiches.

Tim, please make an episode about a man who murders ice cream sandwiches. Thank you.


Trudy Booth - Jun 24, 2005 10:03:10 am PDT #97 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I firmly believe people get off on stuff they'd never do. Snuff porn does not a sexual killer make.

In principle I'd agree about people getting off on stuff they'd never do -- but if its real snuff porn he's getting off on real people really dying. I don't see a big leap between that and doing it yourself.


PatK - Jun 24, 2005 10:04:30 am PDT #98 of 10001
"I so wanna storm out on you right now, but if I stand up, I'll fall." --Jaye

Hmm. Just had a thought.

What if, because (given Rebecca's profile) Roger hates himself for feeling the way he does, and hates the girls for making that feeling happen, that rather than go through with molestation AT ALL, he goes right to killing them?

In his mind, maybe if he kills them, he thinks the temptation won't be there. Because, as I think more on Rebecca's profile, she never said he would molest, just that he hates wanting to, so before he can, he'll get rid of the girls, so he can't.

ETA: And apparently, I was beaten to it. Damn my slow "brain-to-keyboard" ratio. And I hope Tim doesn't mind, but I'ma quote him (almost).

That may be a big step, and it may be improbable....but not impossible.


Gris - Jun 24, 2005 10:05:26 am PDT #99 of 10001
Hey. New board.

Tim, please make an episode about a man who murders ice cream sandwiches. Thank you.

Seconded.


Calli - Jun 24, 2005 10:06:40 am PDT #100 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I think in Rebecca's profile she also said that killing the girls wouldn't bring him peace for long, and that he'd just start obsessing over them again. So if he buys that killing the temptation will end it because of her profile, wouldn't he also buy that it wasn't going to work?

an episode about a man who murders ice cream sandwiches

ETA: If Tim makes a show about a man who murders Klondike bars, maybe he can get some of that nifty product placement dosh.