But? There's always a but. When this is over, can we have a big 'but' moratorium?

Fred ,'Smile Time'


The Minearverse 4: Support Group for Clumsy People  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Kristen - Nov 14, 2005 4:36:52 am PST #6158 of 10001

There are no cars now. In two hours, it's going to be bumper-to-bumper traffic.


Nilly - Nov 14, 2005 4:42:39 am PST #6159 of 10001
Swouncing

There are no cars now

Wow. From the little I saw, I don't think I can imagine LA without traffic.


Allyson - Nov 14, 2005 7:37:41 am PST #6160 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I read someone's report of joss' talk at the writing expo thing, and he had some whitefont about Tim as well:

The moderator asked Joss about how long it took him to assemble the great "Buffy" writing staff, to which Joss replied "Seven years," meaning that he was always looking for great writers and that the process never stopped until the show was over. He had high praise for his whole staff, but admitted that his one regret was not hiring Tim Minear earlier...

Tim had come in to pitch for Buffy and had three great pitches, with the story and metaphors all worked out, but Joss felt Tim was filled with rage and couldn't imagine working with him on a daily basis. He later realized that Tim had been working on the X-Files, and after meeting several other angry X-Files writers, realized the rage stemmed from the fact that they worked on the X-Files (the implication being that it was a tough, emotionally frustrating gig), and then hired for Angel and Firefly. Joss praised Tim highly, saying that after hiring him he realized that Tim was not only a great writer, but also a great person, smart, funny, and very nice (but Joss said it better than I'm recalling it).

In Tim's seminar the previous day, Tim revealed one of his three Buffy pitches was an episode involving Xander being cursed and the only way he can lift the curse is by getting laid, so he's running all over town trying to get girls to sleep with him, telling them his life depends on it. I'm not really doing it justice but when Tim talked about it, it was hilarious.

I have to look it up again to find the cite...

ETA: Here - [link]


§ ita § - Nov 14, 2005 7:41:56 am PST #6161 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I love this:

Joss felt Tim was filled with rage and couldn't imagine working with him on a daily basis. He later realized that Tim had been working on the X-Files, and after meeting several other angry X-Files writers, realized the rage stemmed from the fact that they worked on the X-Files


Frankenbuddha - Nov 14, 2005 7:41:57 am PST #6162 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

In Tim's seminar the previous day, Tim revealed one of his three Buffy pitches was an episode involving Xander being cursed and the only way he can lift the curse is by getting laid, so he's running all over town trying to get girls to sleep with him, telling them his life depends on it. I'm not really doing it justice but when Tim talked about it, it was hilarious.

That would have been my favortist Tim episode of BUFFY evah!

eta It would be like the original AMERICAN PIE, but with vampires!


sumi - Nov 14, 2005 7:47:22 am PST #6163 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

That would have been an excellent Xander-centric episode.

I loved the bit about all former X-files writers being filled with rage.


P.M. Marc - Nov 14, 2005 8:20:01 am PST #6164 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Man, Tim's Buffy episode really was the best. Even if it never really happened.

That's talent.


Frankenbuddha - Nov 14, 2005 8:35:36 am PST #6165 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Joss felt Tim was filled with rage and couldn't imagine working with him on a daily basis. He later realized that Tim had been working on the X-Files, and after meeting several other angry X-Files writers, realized the rage stemmed from the fact that they worked on the X-Files

Hey look at that: another log for the flaming fire of bitter I feel towards Chris Carter.


§ ita § - Nov 14, 2005 8:40:11 am PST #6166 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

another log for the flaming fire of bitter I feel towards Chris Carter

Maybe Tim needed the rage, and the rage got us Angel and Firefly and Wonderfalls and The Inside quality scripts.

::reminds self to never witness Tim!Rage::


Tim Minear - Nov 14, 2005 8:51:35 am PST #6167 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

Yes, Joss thought I was rage-filled. Howard Gordon was the guy who kept insisting I take the meeting with Joss. He really felt it would be a match. When both Greenwalt and Joss reported back to Howard that they thought I was "the angriest man they'd ever met" he was astonished and said, "have you met yourselves? Tim's just exactly like you two!" Heh.