Take jobs as they come -- and we'll never be under the heel of nobody ever again. No matter how long the arm of the Alliance might get, we'll just get ourselves a little further.

Mal ,'Out Of Gas'


The Minearverse 4: Support Group for Clumsy People  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 02, 2005 2:10:04 pm PDT #541 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Well, the performers are still good, and there's a lot of excellent acting on display. But I've completely lost all respect for the narrative (and those crafting it), and with Fury gone I don't have much hope for improvement next season.


planbee - Jul 02, 2005 2:49:59 pm PDT #542 of 10001
I don't think anyone really cares as long as it works.

If FOX really has passed on renewal, does this mean that Tim's development deal with FOX has come to an end?


AnthonyDe - Jul 02, 2005 4:04:16 pm PDT #543 of 10001
A One that isn't cold, is scarcely A One at all.

Cinescape review THE INSIDE: Everything Nice GRADE: A+


Polter-Cow - Jul 02, 2005 4:13:32 pm PDT #544 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

THE INSIDE never forgets the baggage it burdens the guest characters with, and there's always the certainty at fade out that these people go on with the horrors they've witnessed etched on their souls.

I agree with that. You do get the sense of lingering aftereffects from the events of the episode.


Kristen - Jul 02, 2005 7:25:22 pm PDT #545 of 10001

does this mean that Tim's development deal with FOX has come to an end?

Tim's deal is with 20th, not FBC. I'm not sure when it's up for renewal.


CaBil - Jul 02, 2005 8:30:45 pm PDT #546 of 10001
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

From the ComicCon site

Friday 5:30-6:30 Fox Presents: The Inside—The Inside explores the dark intricacies of FBI investigative work, as well as the personal sacrifices required of Rebecca Locke (Rachel Nichols, The Amityville Horror, Dumb and Dumberer) and her Violent Crimes Unit teammates as they move from one gruesome serial crime to the next. Rounding out the team are Danny Love (Adam Baldwin, Serenity, Firefly), Paul Ryan (Jay Harrington, Summerland), Melody Sim (Katie Finneran, Wonderfalls), Carter Howard (Nelsan Ellis), and Virgil “Web” Webster (Peter Coyote, The 4400, E.T.) as head of this rogue FBI division. The cast is joined by creator/writer/director Tim Minear (Wonderfalls, Firefly, X-Files), Howard Gordon (24), Jane Espenson (Tru Calling, Buffy), David Fury (Lost, Angel, Buffy), and Craig Silverstein (The Dead Zone) for a Q&A session. Room 6A


Kevin - Jul 03, 2005 6:21:18 am PDT #547 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I may be correct in saying they've passed ordering new episodes this over the already produced one this season (as it, might only have a 13 (?) episode first season). But then, I might not be right.

Either way, if they choose to keep TI on air until August time I could well imagine it picking up viewers big style - but if FBC want to risk it I don't know.

ETA: from what I can gather apparently Fox had an option on a 2nd season order on Thursday, and chose to pass. Apparently.


Tim Minear - Jul 03, 2005 10:28:35 am PDT #548 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

Okay, gang, here's what I do know. Kevin isn't far off. While the network hasn't said to me that they won't order more episodes, it sure does shake out that way. On Thursday they needed to extend their options on the cast and decided not to. Considering it would have been chump change for them, it basically means we're done.

I'm not ready to start hawking the 13 episode DVD set -- because I'm hoping it's gonna be a 15 episode set, including the two, you counted right, TWO! unaired pilots.

I'm pretty convinced the same thing that happened with a lot of the non-believers here with Wonderfalls and Firefly will happen if they get a chance to see the full 13 (well, 15).

I'm told by the network that they're "still supporting the show" and that we will continue to air. Which, if my experience tells me anything, means catch it while you can. If you wanna, I mean. I'm gonna make my bet right now that we'll have, not including any unaired pilots, six unaired episodes featured on that DVD set.

When I spoke to one my cast members about this, he offered that I must "be crushed." I'm not. This is pretty much what I expected, which doesn't mean I didn't pour every bit of energy, time and care I had into 13 episodes for the last year. I never consider it a waste of time. Or a waste of, well, their money. DVDs have changed a lot. If I end up being some little Americanized BBC, churning out limited series for DVD, and the people who employ me want to keep handing over 20 or 30 million dollars for me to do that, then I'll be perfectly content. There's something nice about being able to go from a hard drinking space western to a hard drinking whimsical comedy to a hard drinking abyss peering noir.

One final note, this press release for ComicCon is a bit premature. With things being what they are, that panel looks to be falling apart, so if you were going to make any plans based on it, don't. However X and the Plimsouls are playing that night in Orange County. Pretty sure I know where I'll be.


Allyson - Jul 03, 2005 10:38:36 am PDT #549 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

What if some soul (not me, because I am too old and tired) decides to take a Don Quixote stab at saving the show?

Would that serve anything other than crashing face-first into a windmill?


Tim Minear - Jul 03, 2005 10:41:48 am PDT #550 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

Allsyon, I discourage strongly any save-this-show attempts by anyone. It would be pointless and a waste of time.