Okay saw this, From James Marsters in the new SFX:

"I would like him to go through a journey where he starts in one place psychologically and ends up in another, allowing him to go through some kind of change," Marsters explained. "I would like him to be the lead. I heard from some people that they were thinking of doing a Spike/Illyria piece and I need to talk to them and say, 'I'm really interested in doing the character as a lead, but I've done him as a sidekick.' If they write an Illyria piece with Spike tagged on, I probably won't do it.

I love Amy Acker and would love to shoot with her, but there's nothing for me to prove by doing it with her," he continued. "It has to do with theme. What is the theme? Who is the character the audience is supposed to identify with? The trick of a story is that you bring the audience on a vicarious journey and you make the central character someone they want to be, so they see themselves through the eyes of that character. Illyria could be all through it. They could be talking to each other in every scene, but thematically it's got to be Spike's story. That's brutally honest, but it's the way I feel."

And my honest opinion is this that I am kinda put off by the attitude of All me or nothing. I think Jm can be class act, but maybe some of the fanbase is starting to bleed onto him. Because, NOT anti-anything, but where not the last couple of years of Buffy very focased on him. I mean the only way they could not be more is if he was Buffy. The same on Angel. Everyone else was shifted to the background and the only way he did not have the lead role was because he was not Angel.

I guess I think that whatever place this universe goes next they need all the fans and actors and none of the egos. And it needs to be about the product being good not who is the main star or who gets more story.

Sorry for the rant, but this is one of the best, most intelligent places I have found on the net, where even when tempers flare everyone is respected. I just wondered what others thought. When DB or Smg said stuff like they only wanted to do it a certain way like in David's case big screen and Sarah's only with strong story and scooby interaction, they were torn apart or put down.

Totally randomly since I have no opinion on JM.

I was reading more Lulu Eightball and this one, about Space, made me snicker after seeing Serenity because the last part of the panel is very Tim and Allyson and Kristen. (individually, that is, not collectively).

they need all the fans and actors and none of the egos.

Yes, and I want all the whipped cream and none of the fat.

Collective would be an intersting mix though, huh?

But the real question is who's legs do you use?

They have non fat whip now......though really what is the point....It is like non sugar cookies

But the real question is who's legs do you use?

Mine.

Illyria could be all through it. They could be talking to each other in every scene, but thematically it's got to be Spike's story.

I would think this would be the case anyway so I'm not sure why JM felt compelled to put this out there publicly. If it were Faith it might be a different story.

I love Tim and Kristen very much. But if trapped in a confined space with them for more than a couple hours, someone will die. It may be me. But someone will surely merrily drink the blood of another.

Especially trapped without smokes!

Sorry for the rant, but this is one of the best, most intelligent places I have found on the net, where even when tempers flare everyone is respected.

Have you met me?

Especially trapped without smokes!

Good point. Tim's the first to go. We'll smoke his lungs.

SAWNEY BEAN!

It's all coming together now.