Oh, smacked in the noggin with a 2x4 wrapped in velvet. Yeah, that's what it felt like.

Lorne ,'Smile Time'


The Minearverse 4: Support Group for Clumsy People  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Beverly - Jun 29, 2005 8:33:26 pm PDT #396 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Yvette nailed it, indeed. Super Wonderfalls cast, what with the nun last week, too.

She's also been evil on CSI.

OMG, yes! That's where I recognised her from. Evil little brat.

I loved the more Mel and Danny--I'd have liked the show better sooner if they'd been featured more, and let Web(b?) lurk around in the dark outside the lighted circle a few more eps before showing how creepy he can be...a slower revelation. Paul, bless him, is still just a cipher for me, a pingpong ball onna stick with a "good" label. I expect that to change.

And we all know I'm a coldhearted bitch, but I really only had any interest in Rebecca for the first time tonight when she was stalking the Bad Seed in the treehouse. Who she is for reals, and now, now, I'm intrigued. I don't especially care how she got that way, really, or whether she wishes she hadn't. What I want to see now is what she does with it, and how she differentiates herself from the deviates she stalks.

And much more Mel and Danny. But mostly Mel.

(ETA: Sinclair is actually a contraction of "Saint Claire", or St. Clair)


joe boucher - Jun 29, 2005 8:45:09 pm PDT #397 of 10001
I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve. - John Prine

I was convinced that the girl's name was Madison Sinclair, and thus was so happy Jane had stuck a VM shoutout in the show. Then I realized it was St. Claire. Fuck.

"The name Sinclair is of Norman origin from 'St.-Clair-sur-Epte' and was established in Scotland in 1162 when Henry de St Clair of Roslin was granted lands in Lothian."

I think it's...psychotic.

Her recklessness had real consequences, too. She was Xander ("I say faster pussycat, kill kill!") to Paul's Buffy ("There's only one problem with her revenge scenario: it's gonna get her killed.") And they didn't get there in time to stop it. A lot of protocols that are so fun to tromp all over are there for a reason. Not to sound too much like Paul.


Kiba Rika - Jun 29, 2005 9:20:17 pm PDT #398 of 10001
I may have to seize the cat.

Wow. Jane Espenson remains top of my list of favorite ME alums. Top 3, definitely.

remember her commentary on the Wonderfalls dvds (or did Tim post about it? i can't remember.) about having to smoke those herbal cigarettes and how sick they made her

Those are NASTY. I was in a play that took place in the 50s and since in the 50s there were "no" filters (not true, there were twoish brands with filters back then) they made me cut the filters off. So I would have large leaves sticking to my tongue, and cloves and stuff. Ewwww. Plus they leave quite a stench on a person.

...Allyson, I wish you had a book. I'd like to read it.

I can't get over how beautiful Rachel Nichols is. Stunningly beautiful. Hauntingly beautiful.


§ ita § - Jun 29, 2005 9:21:41 pm PDT #399 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think it's psychotic if the kid's not guilty. I think Rebecca knows psychopaths like few people alive know psychopaths.

This episode was tight! I really really liked this one.


Allyson - Jun 29, 2005 9:22:26 pm PDT #400 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

...Allyson, I wish you had a book. I'd like to read it.

I swear, I'm working on it. I'm just having a crisis of faith.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 29, 2005 9:26:41 pm PDT #401 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Add me to the "officially in love with Rebecca now" club. Awesome ep. Adults treating kids like the sometimes evil little adults they are always makes me happy.

Ditto for me. Hats off to Jane for making me root for someone to kill a 10-year-old. (Okay, maybe I'm not as hard a sell on that point as the average audience member, but I'm finding that it's glimpses of Rebecca's cruelty and lack of sentiment that are making me bond with her.) Also, THAT was what I was waiting for from Katie Finneran. I had confidence that she would make me love Melody eventually, but it was nice to see that borne out by the episode.


Nilly - Jun 29, 2005 9:42:31 pm PDT #402 of 10001
Swouncing

Skipping to avoid spoilers:

Allyson, you already have a book. It's not in book format (yet!) maybe, and it may still not be finished, but from the little I got to read, it's right there.

[Edit: the only thing I have to post in this thread is off-topic. Sigh.]


Tamara - Jun 29, 2005 10:00:00 pm PDT #403 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

Nilly,

I can tape 4 eps for you. Do you still need them?


Nilly - Jun 29, 2005 10:11:35 pm PDT #404 of 10001
Swouncing

Tamara! Yes, I do, thank you ever so much!


Cranberry - Jun 29, 2005 11:11:38 pm PDT #405 of 10001
I was fine when existence had no meaning. Meaninglessness in a universe that has no meaning -- that I get. But meaninglessness in a universe with meaning? What does that mean?

I really liked this episode up until the ending -- I found it a little weak after such a strong episode. I always hate it when characters say something like "well, now that Nora turned Madison in" basically as an aside -- I want to see big things like that happen, not just hear about them after the fact.

Loved the Rebecca/Mel scenes, though, and Rebecca bullying the kid. I found Rebecca likable in this episode, when previously I'd been interested in her motivations but not really into her as a character. There was a sense of playfulness about her when she was bantering with Mel -- a barely-there sense, but one I'd love to see develop.