Early: Where'd she go? Simon: I can't keep track of her when she's not incorporeally possessing a space ship. Don't look at me.

'Objects In Space'


The Minearverse 4: Support Group for Clumsy People  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Kristen - Aug 14, 2005 8:03:39 pm PDT #2585 of 10001

Yes, I remember that. It was during the commentary for Forgiveness. It immediately made me think of Angel, as well.


AnthonyDe - Aug 16, 2005 9:06:52 am PDT #2586 of 10001
A One that isn't cold, is scarcely A One at all.

Hollywood's Profits, Demystified

Interesting read, apparently TV licensing returns more revenue than either DVDs or box office.


DavidS - Aug 16, 2005 9:29:17 am PDT #2587 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Interesting read, apparently TV licensing returns more revenue than either DVDs or box office.

Aka, The Simpsons as profit center.


Kat - Aug 17, 2005 9:34:48 am PDT #2588 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Not the soap thread, but...

So I'm reading Everything Bad Is Good for You for a study group on pop culture and teens at UCLA, which I'm suddenly in charge of, and I'm enjoying the book. It's provacative and compelling.

I'm in the television section now and Johnson is talking about the cognitive demands, the increased complexity that watching TV now demands and I'm intrigued because it reminds me of listening to folks like Tim talk about maintaining narrative arcs etc.

Johnson points out that Hill Street Blues was one of the first shows that combined the complexity of multithreaded over multiple episodes and seasons storytelling with complex social issues. Prior to that, it was only daytime TV that had such complex story telling with, admittedly, fluff content.

Now, except for whozzit.... L&O and possibly CSI, most shows are multithread/multiepisode. He cites Desperate Housewives, 24, The Sopranos, West Wing, ER, Alias, etc.

And they're making us smarter because we are engaging with that complexity.

So, see, TV is not making us stupid. And go soaps for pioneering that technique in TV.


DavidS - Aug 17, 2005 9:42:14 am PDT #2589 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Hill Street was definitely revolutionary in its form and content. It was my first communal-watching show with my friends in college.

It was also one of the things Joss cited as an inspiration for Firefly (along with The Killer Angels).


Largo - Aug 17, 2005 4:45:48 pm PDT #2590 of 10001

Johnson points out that Hill Street Blues was one of the first shows that combined the complexity of multithreaded over multiple episodes and seasons storytelling with complex social issues.

Alas, I always preferred "St. Elsewhere" to "Hill Street." The latter show was exceptional, but "Elsewhere" was always more entertaining.


quester - Aug 17, 2005 4:58:38 pm PDT #2591 of 10001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I still regret missing episodes of St Elsewhere. Too much theatre work and the lack of vcr.


JenP - Aug 17, 2005 5:03:07 pm PDT #2592 of 10001

Is it out on DVD? St. E, that is? I missed more than I saw, but I did like.


quester - Aug 17, 2005 5:33:23 pm PDT #2593 of 10001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I think it was out on video tape, but I donot know if it ever got burned to dvd.


sumi - Aug 17, 2005 5:40:52 pm PDT #2594 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Largo -- did you just feel like you had to choose between them? Because they were both on NBC, right?