I don't know if Tim has even heard of Richard Thompson, but I would have been delighted if he had responded to iFMAGAZINE's question, "How does it feel to have your ass kicked by ABC’s dancing show?," by breaking into "Tear Stained Letter": "[They] danced on my head like Arthur Murray/The scars ain't never gonna mend in a hurry."
Saffron: He's my husband. Mal: Well, who in the damn galaxy ain't?
'Trash'
The Minearverse 4: Support Group for Clumsy People
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
joe boucher - Jul 27, 2005 12:41:33 pm PDT #1842 of 10001
I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve. - John Prine
Kevin - Jul 27, 2005 1:05:50 pm PDT #1843 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
lilserf,
I've seen the marketing information for SERENITY and it doesn't mention the fan campaign. However, it is easy to find out about it by typing Serenity or Firefly into Google.
ita - I can't spell Jamaicans apparently.
But yes, lilserf, you are right - you could speculate there is some cheapness involved in SERENITY marketing. Or you could speculate fans are optionally doing a lot themselves now which takes the burdon off Universal (and gang).
I don't know the answers here. I run the UK Can't Stop The Signal site and host the international trailer, paying for it myself. I have organised box sets of Firefly and Serenity booklets for media critics myself. I do some more official work on things, too. It's all unpaid. It costs me a fortune. Nearly all my holidays for the year have gone on SERENITY. I'm just about to take 3 weeks off to shoot a documentary on it all with Uncle Joss(tm) and friends in Edinburgh. Unpaid.
Why? Because I liked the show. I liked Tim and Joss's work. I like Serenity. Instead of sitting on an internet fence bitchin' about how a trailer doesn't look western enough with no violins, I decided to do something original -- actually do something.
I might well look back at all this next year and go, you know, that was mad. I might not. I'll still be glad I did it, though, as I'm not stupid to think as a fan I made SERENITY, but I like to think I can help get some people to watch the kind of work I like rather than Crazy Dancing Show #316
The Partyman - Jul 27, 2005 1:10:51 pm PDT #1844 of 10001
[insert something funny here]
I suspect that years from now, some people will still be talking about how "Allyson and Kristen's Campaign was responsible for the Firefly DVDs and the Serenity Movie!", much in the same way that some critics talk about "Ex Buffy Writer Tim Minear!"
Or maybe not.
After reading the posts here, I think I'm still a little confused (not to worry, I am having a stupid day - long story) as to exactly what was responsible (or not) for certain things happenning (or not), but I think that whichever version of history is recorded in people's minds, the campaign did something wonderful, and a huge number of people are grateful. Mobilising a fandom in such a way is no easy feat, and regardless of details (which people are always prone to fudge), you guys are part of the Firefly Fan legacy...
I am going to shut up now before the phrase "Vocal Cult" gets lodged in my brain again.
Topic!Cindy - Jul 27, 2005 1:24:00 pm PDT #1845 of 10001
What is even happening?
ita - I can't spell Jamaicans apparently.What were you saying to Cass, then?
Jesse - Jul 27, 2005 1:34:46 pm PDT #1846 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
That Jamaicans are low-key and non-confrontational?
Ha.
Ha.
Ha!!!
§ ita § - Jul 27, 2005 1:49:55 pm PDT #1847 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
That Jamaicans are low-key and non-confrontational?
See, it's not fair to extrapolate from me to all my countrymen.
Cass - Jul 27, 2005 1:56:51 pm PDT #1848 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
Man, you're like jamicas.
What were you saying to Cass, then?I'm ita!
Except for the parts where I am not.
t does math
We tend to think the same waiters are nummy.
See? Totally ita.
Lee - Jul 27, 2005 2:01:49 pm PDT #1849 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Yay for Vacation, Kristen! I hope you have a great one.
Am I going to see you this weekend, so I can buy you a drink in thanks for the VM episodes?
Largo - Jul 27, 2005 2:28:10 pm PDT #1850 of 10001
What? I go away to D.C. for a week (after my first post), and I come back to learn “The Inside” has been pre-empted tonight? Shoot. Now, what am I going to do before “Lost”?
It makes fans feel good to think that they may have made a difference. It makes good copy in the press and helps promote the movie. It just makes me, personally, twitchy.
Why? I’m new, so, I’m not down w/ the history. I’m catching up…some. But I need to fill in some of the cracks before I weigh in w/ anything. Is there some place (website? message board?) I can visit to learn all about the history of “Firefly” and “Serenity” fans?
Consuela - Jul 27, 2005 4:01:27 pm PDT #1851 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
Btw, who started the drive to buy Firefly DVDs for the overseas forces?
Just to track back to this: I forget who it was in the FF campaign, but they got the idea from someone in the Save Farscape campaign, who has a husband in the military. SF has been running a series of programs for the last couple of years involving dvd donations to CONUS and overseas military personnel. That and the library donation project were very successful.
Is there some place (website? message board?) I can visit to learn all about the history of “Firefly” and “Serenity” fans?
You can talk to Allyson and Kristen, since they were there.