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The Minearverse 4: Support Group for Clumsy People  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Topic!Cindy - Jun 26, 2005 3:13:35 pm PDT #135 of 10001
What is even happening?

I liked the first episode well enough. I didn't fall in love, but I kept the TiVo season pass programmed. I didn't watch the second episode, because of the rape, and because the general subject matter was something I didn't want to watch or think about. I was going to watch the third episode. When I read through here and saw one of the victims was into child prn, I just couldn't. There's stuff I don't like to have in my head. I keep reading here, waiting for my chance to jump into the show. I will watch episode 9, regardless of content, though.


Allyson - Jun 26, 2005 3:36:03 pm PDT #136 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I didn't like or care about any of the characters, particularly Rebecca (or the actress who plays her). (I stopped watching when she knocked on Hart Bockner's door. I was seriously hoping she'd be the next victim at that point. Sorry.)

What makes them all unlikeable for you?


Nicklas - Jun 26, 2005 3:37:20 pm PDT #137 of 10001
"Either it's murder, or this library has a very strict overdue policy."

It's the price you pay. I'm not saying there should be comparisons to other procedurals, but it's hard to avoid, especially when you have a show like Numb3rs ostensibly set in the exact same FBI office.

I understand that, but most people seem to only see the similarities with other proceduals. They still don't see the character drama and for me it's like they're watching an entire other show.

I liked Mel's "Was that a joke, Sir?" They in the team don't know Web either and then he works closely with them on a daily basis. It made me wonder just how much he will freak out if someone turned up and knew more about him than he'd like to.


DXMachina - Jun 26, 2005 3:45:09 pm PDT #138 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

What makes them all unlikeable for you?

Because I just don't like them? More important, I don't care what happens to a single one of them.


§ ita § - Jun 26, 2005 3:48:10 pm PDT #139 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's not that I find them unlikeable myself, it's that I don't find some of them likeable. I do find Web interesting, and that keeps me watching. Rebecca has no hook for me. Paul has some, and Mel and Danny can be amusing.

I don't root for anyone right now, and that might be what folks are missing. It's not a key part of my watching experience, but I can see as it might be for others.


Tamara - Jun 26, 2005 3:49:03 pm PDT #140 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

Should I be happy that The Inside increased it's rating slightly over its lead in this last week (according to Zap2it)? Expecially since I can't imagine that any of the same people actually watch Stacked and The Inside.


Nicklas - Jun 26, 2005 3:50:22 pm PDT #141 of 10001
"Either it's murder, or this library has a very strict overdue policy."

I don't root for anyone right now, and that might be what folks are missing. It's not a key part of my watching experience, but I can see as it might be for others.

So the Inside is more like a HBO-show than a regular network one?


§ ita § - Jun 26, 2005 3:51:32 pm PDT #142 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So the Inside is more like a HBO-show than a regular network one?

My HBO watching has been Sopranos and 6FU, which I found rootable. But it's been a while -- I don't know what the landscape is like now.

I could root for Web, understand, but he's too vague right now.


Jessica - Jun 26, 2005 3:57:22 pm PDT #143 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I had characters to root for on Sopranos and Curb Your Enthusiasm. In a sadistic way, sure, but I liked them all the same. So I'm not sure where that distinction is coming from.

With this show...it's tough. There's no one whose head I want to get inside, and so I'm having to judge each episode entirely on its own terms. The pilot, I liked. Old Wounds, I loved. This past week, I was indifferent. Because there's no entry point character (and, as ita said, no one to root for), it's hard to see myself falling for the show as a whole. I can easily see myself falling for individual episodes, but right now, there's no character arc I'm invested in following.


Nicklas - Jun 26, 2005 4:01:42 pm PDT #144 of 10001
"Either it's murder, or this library has a very strict overdue policy."

My HBO watching has been Sopranos and 6FU, which I found rootable.

Carnivale was rootable too. Season two of 6FU killed all my interest in that show.

This is really not the thread for expansion on this, but for me HBO has more often than not been all brain and no heart -- and damnit, I need the heart. So the Inside is a bit like a HBO show so far, with the exception that I believe there is a heart in there. Somewhere. I can hear it beat even though I can't feel it.