So, how was your summer? Mine was fun. Saw some fish. Went mad with hunger. Hallucinated a whole bunch.

Angel ,'Conviction (1)'


The Minearverse 4: Support Group for Clumsy People  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Narrator - Jul 12, 2005 12:50:38 pm PDT #1276 of 10001
The evil is this way?

Where's Narrator?

What? Don't make me discuss what the definition of "is" is.


Narrator - Jul 12, 2005 1:00:57 pm PDT #1277 of 10001
The evil is this way?

I scrolled, so, here's my brief thoughts --

From what I understand of the particular law, there must be proof of 2 things to convict Rove: (1) that Karl knew Valerie Plame was a covert agent; and (2) that he revealed her super seekrit identity.

I don’t know whether he knew that she was a covert operative.

As to the second point, from what I can see, there’s no difference between saying the name of someone and identifying someone as so-and-so's wife. So, if that’s the only thing keeping Karl out of jail for divulging the identity of a covert agent, then I hope he likes prison stripes.

BUT it may keep him from going to jail on obstruction of justice or – maybe – lying to a federal agent/perjury if he was asked if he told a reporter that “Valerie Plame” got her husband the trip to Niger. Courts tend to accept a bit of parsing when it comes to things like this (although even Clinton wasn’t going anywhere with the “it depends upon what your definition of ‘is’ is”).


joe boucher - Jul 12, 2005 1:25:25 pm PDT #1278 of 10001
I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve. - John Prine

if that’s the only thing keeping Karl out of jail

Elections 2000, 2004, and especially 2008 are keeping Karl out of jail. The likelihood of W & the GOP leadership throwing him under the bus is roughly the same as ABC deciding not to shoot Dancing With the Stars... Again!


le nubian - Jul 12, 2005 4:46:48 pm PDT #1279 of 10001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Rove needs to go. GWB needs to be pressed on the whole "I will fire anyone who was involved in the Plame story."


arby - Jul 12, 2005 5:18:34 pm PDT #1280 of 10001
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)

Yeah, but.. good luck with that. This "administration" has proven they can get out of pretty much anything with lying, lying and handwaving.

I love yellow cake with chocolate frosting.

I'm eating it right now AIFG!


DavidS - Jul 12, 2005 5:21:59 pm PDT #1281 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Yeah, but.. good luck with that. This "administration" has proven they can get out of pretty much anything with lying, lying and handwaving.

Totally agree, but when the White House Press Corps grows a pair, you know they smell blood in the water.


Allyson - Jul 12, 2005 5:26:20 pm PDT #1282 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the future of television.


Kristen - Jul 12, 2005 5:28:46 pm PDT #1283 of 10001

"Quick! Bring my Dodge Charger around!" ... "Darn. I left my phone in the Dodge Dakota!"

Ah yes. Alias has set the bar low.


§ ita § - Jul 12, 2005 6:47:20 pm PDT #1284 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Ya know, if they'd just called it the Ford pickup or the F150, but no. They had to get all awkward and sticky outie.


DCJensen - Jul 12, 2005 7:05:15 pm PDT #1285 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

They could have made it banter. "Get the pickup!' "What pickup?" "The Ford! The black one!" "The F150?" "Yes! Go!"