Hey, if it means I don't have to read any more, woo and, might I add, a big hoo.

Xander ,'Sleeper'


Natter 36: But We Digress...  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sarameg - Jul 01, 2005 8:33:31 am PDT #6338 of 10001

Huh. And I just got my raise, effective tomorrow.

Of course, it may only be good for 2 weeks!

Excuse me while I go depress myself for being rather overpaid given my experience and fear I'll not be able to find something starting in this bracket anytime soon.


shrift - Jul 01, 2005 8:43:49 am PDT #6339 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

So, like, what kind of raises are folks in the IT industry getting?

I got a long-overdue 3% cost-of-living raise. Last year.


Volans - Jul 01, 2005 8:45:27 am PDT #6340 of 10001
move out and draw fire

It's a strange, strange day when I find myself missing George the Elder.

No doubt. And when I say, "FUCK! Sandra Day O'Connor's retiring!"

As an IT professional in DC last year, I got 6%. Which is about what I'd gotten the previous 3 years also. That's for softer stuff - writing JSPs and doing some interface design, with a smattering of project management. Of course, I work for a Big Evil Defense Contractor, and business has been good in that sector, this administration.


Sean K - Jul 01, 2005 8:56:17 am PDT #6341 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

They're swearing in Antonio Villaraigosa today. As he was starting his speech by acknowledging the names in the audience, like former mayor Hahn, he spoke Vice President Al Gore's name and the audience erupted in cheer.

Then he spoke Governer Schwarzenegger's name and the crowd booed, to which Villaraigosa responded -- "Angelinos.... Angelinos.... There will be civility here today...."

Wow.


bon bon - Jul 01, 2005 8:56:19 am PDT #6342 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Sean K - Jul 01, 2005 8:57:07 am PDT #6343 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Did you mean to post that in Movies, bon?


Volans - Jul 01, 2005 8:59:48 am PDT #6344 of 10001
move out and draw fire

So, pursuant to Sean's story about the swearing-in...why are the coasts more liberal than the heartland? Do liberals move to coastal areas? Is it the influx of immigrants? The constant awareness due to ports that there's more than just us in the world? Chemical pollution in the ocean? Heterogenous cities (I kinda covered that already)?

Are coasts in other countries more liberal than inland areas?


bon bon - Jul 01, 2005 9:00:38 am PDT #6345 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Yes, yes I did mean to post that in Movies.

This is what happens when you have two threads open at once.


Sean K - Jul 01, 2005 9:06:21 am PDT #6346 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I think it's a combination of all of that, Raq. Immigrants, ports, heterogeny, and I think there is a tendancy for liberal minded youths in the heartland to want to run screaming from a world view that's so very different fromt heir own.


-t - Jul 01, 2005 9:07:45 am PDT #6347 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I don't know if it's really so much coasts vs inland as urban vs rural, and the big cities are primarily on the coasts because they were all ports at one time.