Atherton: Half the men in this room wish you were on their arm, tonight. Inara: Only half. I must be losing my indefinable allure.

'Shindig'


Natter 36: But We Digress...  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Susan W. - Jun 28, 2005 6:55:47 am PDT #5048 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

In particular, recent discoveries suggest that the adoption of agriculture, supposedly our most decisive step toward a better life, was in many ways a catastrophe from which we have never recovered.

I'm familiar with these arguments (the fact that until very recently agricultural populations were less healthy and robust than their hunter-gatherer ancestors), and find them convincing to the point I've developed an Extremely Heretical interpretation of the early chapters of Genesis as being a folk memory of the transition to an agricultural lifestyle, with all the trade-offs that entailed. That said, without civilization there wouldn't be baseball, chocolate, or the internet, and I'd have to tell stories around the fire instead of writing them down.


Topic!Cindy - Jun 28, 2005 6:55:56 am PDT #5049 of 10001
What is even happening?

Opposable thumbs! I blame opposable thumbs!


Calli - Jun 28, 2005 6:57:21 am PDT #5050 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

without civilization there wouldn't be baseball, chocolate, or the internet, and I'd have to tell stories around the fire instead of writing them down.

Indeed. Plus, no wine, scotch, birth control pills, peanut butter, or tv.


Fred Pete - Jun 28, 2005 6:57:23 am PDT #5051 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

And walking upright was a complete fucking DISASTER.

My back agrees. Especially when it's in the middle of one of those muscle spasms I get now and then.


§ ita § - Jun 28, 2005 6:58:41 am PDT #5052 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But we'd still have the martial arts or something much like, so I'm of two minds about the whole thing.


tommyrot - Jun 28, 2005 7:00:15 am PDT #5053 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I've developed an Extremely Heretical interpretation of the early chapters of Genesis as being a folk memory of the transition to an agricultural lifestyle, with all the trade-offs that entailed.

Ooh, that's really interesting.

I think I'll read my Bible tonight (hey, even an atheist sometimes needs a Bible for reference).

That said, without civilization there wouldn't be baseball, chocolate, or the internet, and I'd have to tell stories around the fire instead of writing them down.

But think how much more effective you'd be at hunting and gathering if you had WiFi. And although there'd be no baseball, there'd still be Calvinball.


Jessica - Jun 28, 2005 7:00:40 am PDT #5054 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

On a non-H2G2 note, there is some evidence to suggest that the invention of agriculture warmed the planet enough to prevent our regularly scheduled ice age, and so began global warming. (It's a somewhat controversial theory, but not completely without merit.)


tommyrot - Jun 28, 2005 7:01:23 am PDT #5055 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

My back agrees. Especially when it's in the middle of one of those muscle spasms I get now and then.

Our bodies have not fully adapted to walking upright, which is why we often suffer from back problems, fallen arches, etc.


Jessica - Jun 28, 2005 7:01:46 am PDT #5056 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

But think how much more effective you'd be at hunting and gathering if you had WiFi.

Not to mention GPS.


tommyrot - Jun 28, 2005 7:02:48 am PDT #5057 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Oh, and some hypothesize that agriculture was developed just so folks could have beer. (Is that still a popular theory?)