Fred: So you don't worry that it's possible for someone to send out a biological or electronic trigger that effectively overrides your own sense of ideals and values and replaces them with an alternative coercive agenda that reduces you to a mindless meat puppet? Shopkeeper: Wow. People used to think that I was paranoid.

'Time Bomb'


Natter 36: But We Digress...  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Jun 20, 2005 8:53:30 am PDT #3103 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Blah. Just had the 401K briefing at work. I hate that. I know I should be saving, but I don't want less money where I can reach it. It makes sense, yet I fear.

I guess I need to admit that there's no point saving for a house right now. But what about when the bubble bursts? I could have a downpayment ... money is so complicated. I always (falsely) feel that saving a little is no use.


§ ita § - Jun 20, 2005 8:54:07 am PDT #3104 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, if it's space, then there isn't much air for an aircar.

If you're going to be literal and make sense, then you can't play.


tommyrot - Jun 20, 2005 8:55:31 am PDT #3105 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Oh, and another issue that hasn't been explored yet regarding a moon base - can a moon base be defended from zombies? Can zombies survive without air? Can zombies successfully amble on the moon? Would the moon's 1/6 gravity enable zombies to walk normally rather than amble? What would be the most effective anti-zombie weapon on the moon?


-t - Jun 20, 2005 8:57:39 am PDT #3106 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

YOu can either take money out of your 401k or borrow against it for a downpayment on a house, ita. It's one of the allowable things that isn't taxed all to hell and gone. I think.


Nutty - Jun 20, 2005 8:58:17 am PDT #3107 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Well, zombies are technically reanimated flesh. I think they don't breathe. So, OK for the moon.

The real question is, how did they get there?? Did zombies on earth organize a colonizing mission?? Weren't there enough edible brains on this planet?

Or maybe we imported them to fight the teeming Martian invaders in their forward attack base.


§ ita § - Jun 20, 2005 8:58:21 am PDT #3108 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's one of the allowable things that isn't taxed all to hell and gone. I think.

D'oh! I should have asked, but I didn't even know it was a question.


§ ita § - Jun 20, 2005 8:59:09 am PDT #3109 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The real question is, how did they get there??

The zombifying agent is space bacteria, which thrive in the low-grav, no-air lunar environment. First space casualty, and bam!


tommyrot - Jun 20, 2005 8:59:39 am PDT #3110 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

YOu can either take money out of your 401k or borrow against it for a downpayment on a house, ita.

Whether or not you can borrow against a 401k plan depends on the rules of the particular 401k plan. Or at least that's the way it is here.


Nutty - Jun 20, 2005 8:59:51 am PDT #3111 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

DX has described this process to me -- borrowing from your own 401K. And because you're paying yourself back with interest, you're only benefitting yourself. Of course, it may take a while to get your 401K high enough to make it worthwhile borrowing from it.


bon bon - Jun 20, 2005 9:01:11 am PDT #3112 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I guess I need to admit that there's no point saving for a house right now. But what about when the bubble bursts? I could have a downpayment ...

Yes. If you can stand to live in it while waiting for the market to go back up, now is a good time to start saving for the bubble burst. This is my plan, anyway.