Everything looks good from here... Yes. Yes, this is a fertile land, and we will thrive. We will rule over all this land, and we will call it... 'This Land.' I think we should call it 'your grave!' Ah, curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal! Ha ha HA! Mine is an evil laugh! Now die! Oh, no, God! Oh, dear God in heaven!

Wash ,'Serenity'


Natter 36: But We Digress...  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Lee - Jun 15, 2005 8:06:56 am PDT #2093 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

through very scientific study (of being in a small office with A/C moreorless pointed right at me), I have discovered that 76-77 is the perfect temp for me.

Today I discovered that Peet's Chai Lattes aren't even as good as Starbuck's Chai Lattes. (Starbuck's aren't nearly as good as Coffee Bean's, but I don't have a CB near me, which is sad making.)

What did other people learn or discover?


sarameg - Jun 15, 2005 8:07:51 am PDT #2094 of 10001

A cab ride from the airport costs $33.

Oh, you want cheery stuff?


Allyson - Jun 15, 2005 8:08:53 am PDT #2095 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I gotta say, my mom would rip my husband's head off (if i had a husband with a head) if she thought, no matter how delusional the thought, that I would recover.

Which is why I place that power in my brother's hands. She wouldn't kill him, and he'd respect my wishes.


askye - Jun 15, 2005 8:10:03 am PDT #2096 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

I think her parents were heavily infleunced by the people who started latching on to Terri as some kind of symbol for their cause and were using them all.

I would like to see Frist called on his "diagnosis" .


Nutty - Jun 15, 2005 8:11:00 am PDT #2097 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I want to know, does it really take weeks and weeks to do an autopsy, and if it does in that county, can you guys remind me not to be murdered there?

Or was it supposed to be a secret, and somebody finally cracked and sold out to the National Enquirer?

Parental unreality regarding their children is not a new phenomenon, but the unsurprisingness doesn't make it any less excruciating. I was unfortunate enough to listen to some of a Dateline show about that girl who disappeared in Aruba. They interviewed her mom, and she was like, "I have faith that [name] will be found alive." On an island the size of a driveway, two weeks after disappearance. Uh huh.

Public grief is something I loathe, but determined public denial is worse.


Lee - Jun 15, 2005 8:11:27 am PDT #2098 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Oh, you want cheery stuff?

I wouldn't describe bad chai lattes as cheery, so no.


Lilty Cash - Jun 15, 2005 8:12:55 am PDT #2099 of 10001
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

Which is why I place that power in my brother's hands. She wouldn't kill him, and he'd respect my wishes.

This is a stroke of brilliance, Allyson. I remember when this got my mother and I talking. I told her she'd better not dare do something like this to me, and she said that she could understand them, as a (liberal, totally not religious) parent. That if there were any hope at all, it would be hard to let go.

My brother would be more grounded in reality, and I don't know that there's anyone I'd trust more.


DavidS - Jun 15, 2005 8:16:30 am PDT #2100 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

What did other people learn or discover?

I learned that the 1949 version of The Secret Garden is very good. Also, I don't want to be at work on such a gorgeous day. But I already knew that.


brenda m - Jun 15, 2005 8:17:28 am PDT #2101 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I don't think the people who were opposed to her nutrition and hydration being removed were claiming she didn't have either massive or irreversible brain damage though (well, at least not the non-nutters). In fact, one of the contentions was that, sometimes, when there is a Mis-diagnosis of PVS, when the patient is blind.

I'm not sure this is quite how I remember it. For one thing, I don't think you can say that "there's often misdiagnoses of PVS when a patient is blind" at the same time as you say "look - she's tracking the balloon - ergo, no PVS." I know there were some people, such as yourself, who were very thoughtful and caring in your discomfort with what was happening. But a lot of the argument being thrown around elsewhere was troll logic.


§ ita § - Jun 15, 2005 8:17:59 am PDT #2102 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I've discovered how to use the ForceType Apache directive to clean up my URLs.