There is often an unfortunate trend with that kind of media to downplay it in fic. A lot of people aren't comfortable writing/reading/thinking about it.
For example, probably the creepiest thing I ever wrote was a Luther story where Alice Morgan kidnaps Ripley just before going to his death, and keeps him on a leash (a chemical rather than canine one) "for his own protection" because she thinks Luthor would prefer him alive. And even fans of Luther barely touched it. The kudos to hit count is hilariously uneven.
I didn't even know I had that level of creeper in me, but I still love that story.
But it's so much fun to explore! People used to do it a lot in Supernatural (at least in gen fic, though the subgenre of demon possession Wincest, AKA the only kind I'd read, existed at least), but I haven't read there in ages, so I don't know if it's still a thing.
Link to the Luther story?
I think, also, that there's been a chilling effect over the five or so years where Tumblr culture's risen to prominence, as an increasingly frequent complaint I see is that consumers seem to have difficulty with the whole concept that writing about something problematic or awful isn't the same thing as endorsing it. I mean, we're back on the argument of no one should write or consume non-con, because only horrible people support rape culture like that! again.
The drawerfic I wrote between 2010 and 2014? Pretty much comfortable writing, not wanting to deal with posting and the headaches around that.
The worst thing I ever wrote and posted was that Willow/Snyder rapefic that has since been locked down and will probably never see the light of day again.
(I wrote it to prove that I could, in fact, write something with no redeeming value.)
as an increasingly frequent complaint I see is that consumers seem to have difficulty with the whole concept that writing about something problematic or awful isn't the same thing as endorsing it.
Hence the endless discussions of
IT IS FINE TO ENJOY PROBLEMATIC MEDIA! JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THE PROBLEMATIC PARTS!
Jilli, I'll post a few Hannigram (yes, that is the stupid portmanteau, and no they do not spell Graham correctly) stories shortly!
Yay! Because I'm willing to test the Hannigram ship if someone I trust gives me links. But just wandering into the fandom with no guide? Nuh-uh.
[link] Amuse-bouche, by me!
difficulty with the whole concept that writing about something problematic or awful isn't the same thing as endorsing it
ugh, yes, that endless whirlpool. It was enough for me when it was a big kerfluffle on DW. I do not need to experience it while tumbling. There's also, as we've talked about, the unwillingness these days to acknowledge warnings vs. squicks, and I for one wish squicks would come back into use.
I know, right?
In the current WIP, all 15k of it thus far, which considering I started it last Monday is kind of terrifying, I worry about softening the edges a little too much. I mean, I want it to be clear that it's deeply fucked-up, but the POV is so tightly third limited, and not just that, but a single characters POV for the whole thing, that it's fucking tricky.
If anyone's interested, there's quite a good Three-Sentence Ficathon going on right now...
Ha, Duchovny's rationale about why he wouldn't have an ethical objection to farming insects,
What I like about insects is they enjoy horrible living conditions and filth, unlike mammals. They do. That’s what they live in. I have no problem with them living in teeming, overcrowded feces-filled environments. That’s where they want to be.
is part and parcel to why I don't want to consider them a food source. I prefer the greater chemical alterations of plants and fungi to stand between poop and me on the food chain.
Website age policing: all I have to do is click on the Continue button and I can read porn and tiger mature-themed stories. Beyond being An annoyance to me, how is this flimsy rule effective in any way?
Speaking of, there's even websites that ask you to put in your birthdate. What stops you from lying?
Unless the parents are paying strict attention to what the kids are doing, the youngsters who want to are going to access porn one way or another, Juliebird. I figure those buttons are there so the websites can say they tried to keep kids out. Also now that I think about it, it might well be that web-nanny services that some parents use to protect their kids from various internet dangers might well use those buttons as some kind of tip-off and be able to block the sites. I'm not really sure how those things work.
