So there is something I can do, besides scream like a woman?

Wesley ,'Chosen'


Fan Fiction II: Great story! Where's the sequel?

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


§ ita § - May 20, 2014 5:25:45 pm PDT #8949 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The only changes we can make are to capitalization and turning e into é, and we rarely do that (only if we're making that tag the canonical and then saying that other tags mean the same thing as it).

Really? So if I only tag something 'Cas fucks Dean's brains out' then Dean/Castiel fans will never see it?

This is the webpage where they post volunteering opportunities.

I'll have a look, thanks.

which is a combination of issues around control/shaming plus my anxiety that I won't get all the things I could possibly get and then will get into trouble for it.

I'm still very interested in the idea that you can write and publish the story, though. Publication seems to be similar in weight. I'm not going to lie--I pity the person who stumbles into untagged deep waters


DebetEsse - May 21, 2014 8:34:50 am PDT #8950 of 10434
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Really? So if I only tag something 'Cas fucks Dean's brains out' then Dean/Castiel fans will never see it?

I don't wrangle SPN, but if that's the ONLY tag you use, then, yeah, likely not, as it's unlikely to be used enough to be canonized. And, in that case, they're gonna have to look specifically for that tag. However, if you tag:
Fandom: Supernatural, Relationship: Castiel (Supernatural)/Dean Winchester Freeform tag:Cas fucks Dean's brains out
They will.

This, of course, is assuming they use the advanced tag-based search functions (highly recommended)

We get some people who put all their tags in the "characters" section, and there's not really anything we can do with that. On the other hand, we have some users who have figured out not only / vs & (for sexual/romantic relationships vs not), but some of the finicky formatting details we have to keep things reasonably predictable.


P.M. Marc - May 21, 2014 8:53:35 am PDT #8951 of 10434
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I'm still very interested in the idea that you can write and publish the story, though. Publication seems to be similar in weight. I'm not going to lie--I pity the person who stumbles into untagged deep waters

I'm not gonna lie: warning culture has had a serious chilling effect on me.

I can write damn near anything about adults. Writing's not the issue. Publishing wasn't the issue before. Other people putting the onus on me for their mental health and a culture of expectations around that which feels amorphous and that I cannot reasonable meet? That's the issue.

And, you know, maybe I'm one of the broken eggs for their omelet, but doesn't mean I have to like it.


§ ita § - May 21, 2014 11:11:55 am PDT #8952 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Whether you like it or not (you clearly don't) unless you tag with "I'm not tagging shit--enter at own risk", people are still putting the onus on you for their mental health, and the culture of expectation still applies.

They just think they're wandering into a land of no triggers, because we've created (for good or ill) a safe space expectation.

But that is assuming you can't put details like "child rape by protagonist" in your summary--is that also problematic and disturbing for you?


P.M. Marc - May 21, 2014 12:21:11 pm PDT #8953 of 10434
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Whether you like it or not (you clearly don't) unless you tag with "I'm not tagging shit--enter at own risk", people are still putting the onus on you for their mental health, and the culture of expectation still applies.

That's, in theory, what Choose Not to Warn means on AO3.

I just don't trust that people understand that choice, nor do I trust that they respect it.


§ ita § - May 21, 2014 12:53:39 pm PDT #8954 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I just don't trust that people understand that choice, nor do I trust that they respect it.

100% cosigned.


Calli - May 21, 2014 2:33:00 pm PDT #8955 of 10434
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

That's, in theory, what Choose Not to Warn means on AO3.

That's how I take it.


Anne W. - May 22, 2014 2:05:02 am PDT #8956 of 10434
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

That's how I take it.

Seconded. Also, doesn't AO3 default to chooses not to warn if you don't pick something else?

From time not to time, I've seen "chooses not to warn" AND "graphic violence" used on a fic. How do you all interpret that? My first assumption would be that it's shorthand for "this story is dark, dark, dark, and things like death are definitely on the table but you'll have to read to find out for sure."


DebetEsse - May 22, 2014 4:46:25 am PDT #8957 of 10434
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Seconded. Also, doesn't AO3 default to chooses not to warn if you don't pick something else?

Yes. It's checked by default

From time not to time, I've seen "chooses not to warn" AND "graphic violence" used on a fic. How do you all interpret that? My first assumption would be that it's shorthand for "this story is dark, dark, dark, and things like death are definitely on the table but you'll have to read to find out for sure."

I tend to read it as "I forgot to uncheck the first box when I checked the second"


Connie Neil - May 22, 2014 6:15:37 am PDT #8958 of 10434
brillig

I'd go with "someone you like is going to die, but I don't want to put in Major Character Death." Or they're going to bring the torture porn. I might read, but I'd be cautious.