Simon: Captain... why did you come back for us? Mal: You're on my crew. Simon: Yeah, but you don't even like me. Why'd you come back? Mal: You're on my crew. Why we still talking about this?

'Safe'


Fan Fiction II: Great story! Where's the sequel?

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


§ ita § - Aug 13, 2013 7:14:35 am PDT #8608 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Do you think stories that are tagged with a ship where they never get together (and in fact end up with other people) should be tagged something like "no A/B endgame"? Or even more than that, since there's nothing other than a single admission of attraction in three chapters?

Whether the ending is happy or sad for them, do you feel the average fic-reader is "owed" (loaded word used purposely) warning?


WindSparrow - Aug 13, 2013 7:32:24 am PDT #8609 of 10434
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

That's not an easy one to answer, ita_!. I mean, I do not view other writers as my bitches, who must write what I want or suffer consequences. On the other hand, I think I would feel cheated by the tag. I mean, if I go hunting for A/B ship fic, click on something with the A/B tag, and haul in something where they don't actually have a relationship, it's hardly fair. I do not consider one mention of attraction in a multi-chapter work a relationship.


Connie Neil - Aug 13, 2013 7:35:32 am PDT #8610 of 10434
brillig

If it's tagged as a ship, I would expect a ship. A/B I would see as a ship. "A & B" I would interpret as A & B interacting a lot and their relationship, whatever it is, being a focus. I've seen some Avengers fic labeled "Steve & Tony non-ship" just for clarity.


WindSparrow - Aug 13, 2013 7:35:48 am PDT #8611 of 10434
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

And the more I think about it, the more I would feel that the A/B tag without the "no A/B endgame" was deliberate bait and switch unless it was otherwise clearly warned of in the summary or something.


§ ita § - Aug 13, 2013 8:30:47 am PDT #8612 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I mean, it was excellently written--she's good. But she has a longfic pattern of ripping your heart out, making it seem like there's no way it can go back in, and then voila! Happy ending, A/B endgame.

This one--of course I want them happy, BUT I ONLY CLICKED ON IT FOR THE SHIP. DON'T PRETEND YOU DON'T KNOW WE DO THAT. Even if they didn't end up together, I did want them together at some point--that was the fix I was jonesing for.

We are not all readers, but we are many.


SailAweigh - Aug 13, 2013 9:39:55 am PDT #8613 of 10434
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

A/B tag without the "no A/B endgame"

I've seen unrequited used in the Star Trek fandom; I don't know if it's used elsewhere, though.

What I hate the most is when the author lists two ships, say A/B and A/C, but you don't know what the ultimate endpair is. I've bumped into more than my fair share of fics where the end pair is one I hate with a burning passion.


§ ita § - Aug 13, 2013 9:51:03 am PDT #8614 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What I hate the most is when the author lists two ships, say A/B and A/C, but you don't know what the ultimate endpair is

Oh, yeah. And the most explicit/sweet/fulfilling-to-you scenes are the other pairing?

::gnargh::


Dana - Aug 13, 2013 9:54:55 am PDT #8615 of 10434
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

BTW, Lee, do you want my third VVC DVD? I can even give it to you in person!


Lee - Aug 13, 2013 10:31:05 am PDT #8616 of 10434
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

OOH! YES PLEASE!

I forgot it was that time again.


Dana - Aug 13, 2013 10:32:37 am PDT #8617 of 10434
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I did too. I don't know what the hell happened to the rest of August, but I think someone stole it.