Zoe: Next time we smuggle stock, let's make it something smaller. Wash: Yeah, we should start dealing in those black-market beagles.

'Safe'


Fan Fiction II: Great story! Where's the sequel?

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


WindSparrow - Mar 02, 2012 8:16:35 pm PST #7678 of 10434
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Sometimes I wish there was a Porn Blocking 101 class, because too many times people wind up in positions that have no basis in reality.

When reading, nothing takes me out of the moment faster than the thought, "Not even porn stars bend like that." Which of course, means that writing good smut is about as sexy for me as a writer as I imagine sex scenes are for actors. It's all "Ok, that finger goes there, the elbow can't do that, gonna have to change positions to get there from here, blah blah way too analytical blah." For actors I expect there is a certain amount of "Ouch, you're on my hair!" and "Could you please not put your knee there!"


Connie Neil - Mar 02, 2012 8:24:18 pm PST #7679 of 10434
brillig

I've read some nice stuff where the characters actually do occasionally knee someone or stick an elbow in the eye, or even just start giggling so hard they can't do anything. Which is much more enjoyable for me than clever sexual choreography.

I'm more of a fade-to-black writer, myself. Saves having to do all that pesky organizing.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 03, 2012 1:08:17 am PST #7680 of 10434
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I imagine one of the root causes might be that so many of the people whose fanfic I've run across seem to have no firsthand experience with sex themselves.


§ ita § - Mar 03, 2012 3:40:40 am PST #7681 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't understand why that means they suddenly don't know the limits of the human spine, though.

I mean, I get a certain degree of "people don't actually do that for real" or "it doesn't go down the exact same way *every* time". But I don't have to have been in certain positions to know they can't be held. Also, there's a mega-shitload of porn out there. If the positions were all ones that flexible porn stars could do but no one would bother in the intimacy of their own bedroom, I'd get that too.

It's only bad research to me. Even if you've had sex, please check how many hands a given action takes. It's just polite.

Also, I'm glad to see it's increasingly a gland, not a bundle of nerves.


WindSparrow - Mar 03, 2012 3:55:09 am PST #7682 of 10434
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

I imagine one of the root causes might be that so many of the people whose fanfic I've run across seem to have no firsthand experience with sex themselves.

Dunno how big a problem that is, I'm still rather proud of the smut I wrote while I was a virgin. But again, thinking things through helps and I s'pose it is up there with "read too many cheesy romance novels so now think 'throbbing manhood' is de rigueur."

One thing that is a big challenge is precisely how much detail to put in - I get sick of the thing, want to be done with it, and start wondering how much I can get away with leaving to the imagination of the reader. But there are ways to do that with finesse, too.


Consuela - Mar 06, 2012 4:34:09 pm PST #7683 of 10434
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Lithiumdoll is changing webhosts, and she's not moving all her vids over, just the most recent. If you have a great fondness for some of her old stuff, grab it now: [link]


Dana - Mar 06, 2012 4:48:53 pm PST #7684 of 10434
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

AUGH WHY.

(rhetorical question)


Consuela - Mar 06, 2012 4:58:29 pm PST #7685 of 10434
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I have had her friended for yonks, and even I didn't know she had all those vids!


Amy - Mar 13, 2012 5:01:27 am PDT #7686 of 10434
Because books.

Interesting discussion of 50 Shades of Grey, which Vintage just picked up after the author really successfully self-published it, and which started life as Twilight fanfic.

What's interesting is that Vintage is saying this is completely original, even though the Dear Author blog did a comparison between it and the original fic, and it's barely been changed at all, aside from the names.

The bigger question is, does it matter that it started as Twilight fanfic? It was so AU that it bore very little resemblance to the story of Twilight aside from the characters' names.


§ ita § - Mar 13, 2012 7:24:59 am PDT #7687 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Why would Vintage take that position, since it's so trivially disproven? Because they think the people that disagree won't get heard or taken seriously?