Mal: How come you didn't turn on me, Jayne? Jayne: Money wasn't good enough. Mal: What happens when it is? Jayne: Well... that'll be an interesting day.

'Serenity'


Fan Fiction II: Great story! Where's the sequel?

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Dana - Jan 01, 2012 7:04:55 am PST #7537 of 10434
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Author names are up.


Atropa - Jan 01, 2012 12:38:07 pm PST #7538 of 10434
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Eee, Snacky wrote Mary Poppins!


Dana - Jan 01, 2012 12:39:43 pm PST #7539 of 10434
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

So, those of you who did yuletide for the first time this year, how did you like it?


Amy - Jan 01, 2012 2:19:19 pm PST #7540 of 10434
Because books.

I loved it. I'll definitely do it again. And there are so many cool prompts left, in the New Year's Resolution list! (Abelard and Heloise!)


juliana - Jan 04, 2012 12:46:01 pm PST #7541 of 10434
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

I have a long list of Yuletide fic I love (including Anne's!), but I still think this one take the cake: Texts From Cephalopods, by volta_arovet.


Cass - Jan 04, 2012 1:56:54 pm PST #7542 of 10434
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Oh, that was hilarious!


§ ita § - Jan 25, 2012 9:28:01 am PST #7543 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I was correcting someone's conflation of fic terms (slash==porn), and they also mentioned "aren't most writers 16-20?" So I got all handwavey no, but wondered--what are the numbers? Surely there have been a few surveys in the past few years that would give more representative ages?

I found this: [link] but I don't know much about the sources for the study (and I side-eye language like "Contrary to expectations, it is the older and more experienced authors who do have a betareader" anyway), but it did put the age at 26. Also, it's obviously dated and its fandom numbers not so relevant right now.


Consuela - Jan 25, 2012 12:48:26 pm PST #7544 of 10434
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

The problem is that fanfic is community-based. I wouldn't be surprised if the average age at FFN skews younger than it does on AO3, for instance, but even that is going to vary by fandom.

So a survey, no matter how well-designed, gives you only a snapshot of a particular subset, or multiple subsets, and pretty much cannot be scaled to represent the whole of fic-writing fandom, because there's so much variation between the communities.


§ ita § - Jan 25, 2012 2:51:44 pm PST #7545 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hmm. I was wondering if anyone had hit up the major audiences during the kinda recent acafen push. It seems like defining the characteristics of the population might be high on the list of identification and definition.

I didn't check to see the other pages on that link's website because I haven't had a moment yet, but I would be interested to know what communities s/he was polling then.


Consuela - Jan 25, 2012 3:05:55 pm PST #7546 of 10434
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I was wondering if anyone had hit up the major audiences during the kinda recent acafen push

Oh, there's been a ton of surveys. But any academic worth their salt, and who is familiar with fandom, should know better than to extrapolate beyond, "The 373 individuals who took this survey, who mostly post their fiction on Livejournal, Fanfiction.net, and the AO3, are x% between the ages of 9-13, y% between the ages of 14-19, [etc etc etc]." That's about all one could say, which is hardly dispositive.

There is no central gathering place where one is guaranteed to get a cross-section of fic-writers from all the separate communities, and even if one were able to locate and post the survey in many of the separate communities, the response rate itself would likely vary greatly. There is a strong anti-intellectual/anti-academic strain in some places, which would result in either low response, or unreliable data.

Much as I support the idea that fandom merits study, it's surpassingly hard to do any kind of quantitative work that can be survive scrutiny.