Weird love's better than no love.

Buffy ,'Dirty Girls'


Fan Fiction II: Great story! Where's the sequel?

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


§ ita § - Jan 10, 2010 5:26:02 pm PST #6501 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The comments seem to be chastising Kripke for being irresponsible, and the cartoon's author seems to be on board with that. It mystifies me.

I'd love to know what someone non-fannish and not fandom-adjacent makes of those episodes, but it's not like I know anyone to ask.

The cartoon came across as melodramatic to me. I agree that Kripke is the least of that woman's problems.


P.M. Marc - Jan 10, 2010 6:35:29 pm PST #6502 of 10434
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I'd love to know what someone non-fannish and not fandom-adjacent makes of those episodes, but it's not like I know anyone to ask.

My sampling of one thought it was hilarious, and wondered where they got the idea of people writing about them doing it.

(My other non-fannish sample for the show counts as adjacent, because he knows I'm fannish and that I write fanfiction.)

The comments seem to be chastising Kripke for being irresponsible, and the cartoon's author seems to be on board with that. It mystifies me.

That's the part I don't get. A sex-negative patriarchy is at fault for any situation in real life resembling that. And while I have sympathy for someone finding herself in that situation, I have basically *no* sympathy for an argument that it's irresponsible to break the fourth wall because some oppressive dillweed in the SNP might have a lightbulb moment and get pissed.


Lee - Jan 10, 2010 9:38:13 pm PST #6503 of 10434
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I gotta agree with Plei and ita.

I think the comic treats being an SPN fan as being wrong from the get go, far more than the show ever has, with the whole "Yeah, but it's Supernatural" foot rubbing weirdness.

Also, using the artist's own words (from the comment), she is "irritated at SPN for being a poor community citizen" and thinks "Kripke is a bad fangirl".

Umm. Kripke is not a "fellow fan", and isn't suggesting he should be tearing down the 4th wall from the other side?


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 11, 2010 7:05:48 am PST #6504 of 10434
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

If Kripke & Co. had singled out a specific real fan and used her actual fannish identity, I'd see it as lines being crossed. But they're featuring fictional people, and not in a negative judgey way like Sorkin did. If people are embarrassed by their hobbies and surrounded by people who are unsupportive about them, the cure is to find new hobbies or more supportive people to surround themselves with.

It's not like anyone is being forced to put on Spock ears, y'know?


Lee - Jan 11, 2010 7:20:46 am PST #6505 of 10434
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Well, there was that one time...


P.M. Marc - Jan 11, 2010 8:03:45 am PST #6506 of 10434
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

What happens at Star Trek Experience Las Vegas stays in Star Trek Experience Las Vegas, Perkins.


Lee - Jan 11, 2010 8:28:13 am PST #6507 of 10434
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

oops.

Sorry


Consuela - Jan 11, 2010 4:48:12 pm PST #6508 of 10434
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I'd love to know what someone non-fannish and not fandom-adjacent makes of those episodes, but it's not like I know anyone to ask.

My single data point thinks that the convention episode is hysterical. My other single datapoint thought that the episode "Yellow Fever" (in which Dean was afraid of everything) was her favorite.

... so, yeah, not very fannish in their responses.


P.M. Marc - Jan 11, 2010 7:45:02 pm PST #6509 of 10434
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Our two data points agree about the convention episode, apparently. I'm not sure I recall my data point's reaction to Yellow Fever, but I acutely disliked the episode and probably tried to avoid discussing it.

(My gaming-fannish data point thought the convention episode was one of the best things ever. Like me, he was, I believe, having Acute Flashbacks.)


§ ita § - Jan 11, 2010 7:57:21 pm PST #6510 of 10434
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I would have called my sister a fannish-adjacent data point, since she knows about my shenanigans. But she dove deep into the world of Brokeback Mountain gay fic and hasn't surfaced yet, so I think she's exposed herself to all sorts of tinhattery.

She watched the first half of the convention episode and thought it was very funny--but Supernatural will never be for her because they're brothers.