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Fan Fiction II: Great story! Where's the sequel?

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Ailleann - Feb 21, 2008 12:47:18 pm PST #5226 of 10436
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

Thanks for noticing?


SailAweigh - Feb 21, 2008 5:12:56 pm PST #5227 of 10436
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I gotta admit, I've given that kind of feedback. After some of the crap you read, it's like water in the desert. You almost don't believe it's actually there and you're so grateful for it, you're shouting it to the rooftops.


dcp - Feb 21, 2008 5:27:14 pm PST #5228 of 10436
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

Um. I left feedback to a Stargate fic on TtH once that ended with something like "...and thanks for taking the time to get the geography of Colorado Springs right. Not many do."


Consuela - Feb 21, 2008 6:04:22 pm PST #5229 of 10436
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Yeah, it was the kind of feedback that just made me boggle. I mean, really, speaking for myself, a lot of crossovers waste way too much time on setup, when what the reader wants is that moment of collision. I am not going to waste 4,000 words getting Sheppard to the Uncharted Territories, dude.

Eh. Anyway. At least my SPN/SCC crossover has gotten a nice reception.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Feb 21, 2008 11:08:17 pm PST #5230 of 10436
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

a lot of crossovers waste way too much time on setup

So true. My theory is that people waste time on setup because that's the part the makes them feel clever. "Look, I have done such a realistic job getting Harry and Hermione onto the Starship Enterprise, nobody would ever guess that they weren't part of the same world."


Fay - Feb 21, 2008 11:22:37 pm PST #5231 of 10436
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

My theory is that people waste time on setup because that's the part the makes them feel clever. "Look, I have done such a realistic job getting Harry and Hermione onto the Starship Enterprise, nobody would ever guess that they weren't part of the same world."

fwiw, I actively enjoy a clever sewing-together of 'verses. And have problems suspending disbelief when the crossover requires one of the 'verses to have its rules rewritten/canon be glossed over - or when there's no explanation at all.

Which - totally ymmv, and yay for everyone having their own beautiful cake. But I'm balking a bit at dismissing this sewing-together as self-congratulatory timewasting.


SailAweigh - Feb 22, 2008 4:48:53 am PST #5232 of 10436
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

And have problems suspending disbelief when the crossover requires one of the 'verses to have its rules rewritten/canon be glossed over - or when there's no explanation at all.

That's definitely a problem, too. I don't write fanfiction, much less crossovers, but getting the two (or more) universes involved together in a way that works and pleases most people has got to be very difficult. I can't think of too many crossovers where there wasn't at least some mild bending of canon, but a crossover is, to me, ultimately an AU story anyway so some bending is allowed in my mind.


Ailleann - Feb 22, 2008 4:55:26 am PST #5233 of 10436
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

And sometimes it's the buildup that's the fun part! Seeing how you can in fact put character X into scenario Y and make it feel natural.

But then, I'm a sucker for crossovers and AUs.


Typo Boy - Feb 22, 2008 5:32:24 am PST #5234 of 10436
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Ailleann spoke for me in that post.


Beverly - Feb 22, 2008 7:17:59 am PST #5235 of 10436
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I tend to be a hard sell for crossovers. The ones that work for me are set with canon characters in a familiar 'verse, and you begin to notice a background character, or characters. They fit into the current canon, but there's something recognizable and familiar about them as they pass through, or become less relegated to background. It gives a little frisson when you do recognize them, and realize they've managed to fit right in for the most part and are incognito in the current 'verse. I like that moment of recognition, and give the writer props for cleverness, deftness and the tidy melding of 'verses.

But that's just me and what I like.