I still can't believe I'm a mostly gen, casefile-type reader.

eyes widen

And a mostly gen writer with a side of tasteful het.

blinks

It's like they replaced me with someone else or something.

nods

Weird. Man. That's...weird.

SA - Bones/Brennan? Really? I've only seen Season 2 up to the episode in Las Vegas (oh, man, and how I squeeled in the Little Miss Beauty Pageant corpse episode when Boreanaz said the pageant had been held in the Hyperion Hotel!!!) but I'm really enjoying the friends thing with them. Whereas I've been all over Angela/Hodgins like a flaming rash. Loved the fact that they gave those two supporting actors such nice material to work with, and had Brennan hooking up with his ex (who has tits! and ass! and seems like a normal person!) and with Cam, rather than just milking the potential het dynamic of the main dynamic duo...which is, actually, another way of agreeing that this is another case of the kind of heterosexual canon relationship that is being written the way that guy/guy buddy relationships always were, but m/f relationships never were. Not to get into the 'hetslash' thing, but - yeah. I totally do get it. Aeryn/John, Mulder/Scully, Kara/Lee (back in the day)...some nice writing there.

even though I normally like her stuff a lot, so it looks like the genderswap Wincest is not for me either.

I did finish it, and the characterisation was great, and she did a great treatment of Sam as a girl. And the attendant problems Dean would have if Sam was a girl. The girl/boy squick barrier there was much more subtle, and I think it was in part because of how tight the lens was on Dean's perspective, and how guilty and wrong Dean felt through the whole thing; so as a result, as a reader, I felt kind of guilty and wrong too. So it's possible that the POV could be the origin of my vague squickedness, but perhaps not.

SA - Bones/Brennan? Really? I've only seen Season 2 up to the episode in Las Vegas (oh, man, and how I squeeled in the Little Miss Beauty Pageant corpse episode when Boreanaz said the pageant had been held in the Hyperion Hotel!!!) but I'm really enjoying the friends thing with them.

Okay, see, this is something I'm encountering with the fandom too. Don't get me wrong, I *love* their friendship. I think it's awesome, I think it's a great give and take and it's funny and they care about each other and obviously they've deepened their relaitonship with all they've been through.

And I'm not all flamey OTP about it--like, it doesn't pain my soul or anything to see them with other people. But I mainlined the 30 episodes that have aired in like six days, and you really see from the beginning to the end the progression of their relationship towards something more. DB and ED have some mad chemistry, and the way Booth stands just a little too close, the ways he leads Brennan around, the way he protectly her physically and mentally, the way he gives up sex dates with hot women to sit and eat donuts with her; the way she trusts him, implicitly, the way she trusts very few people and how difficult that must be for her to trust a dude *at all*, so how important that trust she places in Booth, that he will figure it out (when she is buried alive, when she's drugged by voudon and a murder suspect in New Orleans, when she's kidnapped and nearly killed by Adam Baldwin, etc ad nauseam); the way she needles his catholic guilt but with genuine curiosity, the way she lets her squints be his squints, the way she lets him into her house and onto her couch, arguable the more intimate part of her life, and she lets no one else there. Yeah, I'm into the ship. But I love it because of its maturity, and part of that is being okay with letting us take awhile to get there. I'm not even sure we'll get B/B by the end of this season, though there are some markers in this season that indicate we might do. If not, then probably next season, which is just fine with me. I do think it's inevitable. But I think if/when they do it, it'll be with consideration for a larger storyline and characterisation.

I kind of think of it as Mulder/Scully without the Issues and Secrecy. Like, if they had just acknowledged that M&S were adults with a thing and let them do it. With more funny. And more bones.

Whereas I've been all over Angela/Hodgins like a flaming rash.

Insert many heart symbols here! I love them too. I love that they're geeky and funny and so into each other and into doing each other and the quiet certainty to their relationship. Heart!

Loved the fact that they gave those two supporting actors such nice material to work with, and had Brennan hooking up with his ex (who has tits! and ass! and seems like a normal person!) and with Cam, rather than just milking the potential het dynamic of the main dynamic duo

Yes! yes yes yes! It's *why* I love the OTP, because we've seen them with other people, and know that they can be good with other people. But that they make each other better. /shiptastic

which is, actually, another way of agreeing that this is another case of the kind of heterosexual canon relationship that is being written the way that guy/guy buddy relationships always were, but m/f relationships never were.

Word.

didn't need to be said twice. although BRENNANnBOOTH4EVAH!!¬!!" did.

Hee.

Yeah, 'kay. You make good points.

I also want there to be Numb3rs/Bones crossover fic, in which the Eppes brothers (?spelling) are related to PsychoKiller Eppes Guy. Although if I ever got around to writing it, I guess I've given away the punchline...really I'd rather have somebody else write it for me.

Oh, god. It would be the cousin that Alan never tells them about. Distant cousin. And there would be lots of apalled silences because Don and Charlie can't believe that they who fight CRIME WITH MATH could be related to an evil serial killer!

Anne, I wrote some of that with Vanzetti a while back, although the premise was that just Sam was a girl. We couldn't justify John hitting the road with two girls--I just don't think he would be able to do it.

If you want, I can scare up a link, although it was more like snippets than any complete stories.

Ooh! I'd love a link!

another case of the kind of heterosexual canon relationship that is being written the way that guy/guy buddy relationships always were, but m/f relationships never were. Not to get into the 'hetslash' thing, but - yeah. I totally do get it.

Precisely, the woman is just as tough as the guy and has complexities, and she's his professional equal. That's what I've been waiting for, all three points to finally come together.

re: Angela/Hodgins, I'm getting a suspicion from the last few eps that Angela might be gone next season. She's getting twitchy. But I hope I'm wrong.

Oops... would that mean that anyone (me, for instance) who hasn't met you in person but calls you "Plei" rather than "P.M." would be considered presumptuous?

Not at all! (Initially, it help with initial confusion, as Jess was Persephone Moon at the time, and now I'm just used to it--PM seems formal!)

SA, you crack me up. I'm sure if you could get them to France, you could work them into your other obsession.

I'm sure if you could get them to France, you could work them into your other obsession.

IN THEIR GRIEF THEY COULD GO TO FRANCE AND STAY WITH ALAN'S FAMILY FRIENDS, the DE MORMOURANTS.

dude. you know if anyone could do it, I could.

dude. you know if anyone could do it, I could.

Oh, hon, I don't think any of us doubt that you could -- but will you?