Spike: Ladies. Come on in. Plenty of blood in the fridge, don't be shy. Dawn: You mean like, real blood? Spike: What do you think? Dawn: Mostly I think, 'Eew!'

'Potential'


Fan Fiction II: Great story! Where's the sequel?

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Nutty - Feb 05, 2006 4:54:30 am PST #1771 of 10434
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I think it's a "he's really laconic -- how do I say that if I am not actually familiar with the word 'laconic'?" issue.

Or, it could be a secret badfic competition. I wonder how the scary Le Femme Nikita author (courtesy Dana) would describe him?


Consuela - Feb 05, 2006 6:38:17 am PST #1772 of 10434
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I read a story last night that ... well, it really struck home the way some pieces of fiction are just an open door to all the most interesting parts of the writer's psyche. I mean, check it out--It's an AU in which the US military practices sexual slavery of military prisoners (yes, this is going where you think it is):

  • Daniel as woobie, inable to protect himself (despite having a body described as lean and athletic);
  • Daniel is convicted of treason for refusing to return to Earth after Apophis attacks Abydos, and made into Jack's sex slave;
  • Jack as hardass but fond of Daniel;
  • Daniel multiply raped by military men, including Jack;
  • No women to be seen at all, except for one hooker that someone gives to Daniel as a gift;
  • Several suicide attempts by Daniel;
  • Jack saves the galaxy by bonding with the Asgard and helping defeat the Replicators (by himself: there is no team);
  • Daniel is raped and beaten up by another guy when Jack is away saving the galaxy with the Asgard;
  • Jack comes back and sees how badly Daniel was treated, so he decides to become his friend instead of his master;
  • Daniel realizes he loves his master Jack and they live happily ever in a world without women or psychological realism.

It's like a case study for all those people who claim slash is misogynistic. But it's not like women are badly treated: they simply don't exist at all. (Except in memory: in this world Daniel married Sha're but she was killed by Apophis, not taken.)

I read something like this (okay, skimmed), and I can't help thinking the writer can't possibly be aware of how she's exposed everything about her own kinks. Cause there's kinks, and there's kinks. I dunno.

Weirdness.

And no, it's not a particularly good story. I need to not click on links that don't say "highly recommended" by someone I trust.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 05, 2006 8:43:41 am PST #1773 of 10434
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

So SG-1 fiction just found its own John Norman?


Consuela - Feb 05, 2006 8:58:27 am PST #1774 of 10434
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Well, it's an old story, looks like it was probably written around season 3 or 4, though I could be wrong. It's just... bleah.

I'm sure the writer and many readers got a lot out of it. It was just a little too designed to appeal to a certain set of kinks for me to feel comfortable with. It's just so very far from what appeals to me about the show and the characters, as well.

::twitches uncomfortably::


shrift - Feb 05, 2006 10:11:08 am PST #1775 of 10434
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

You know, I was mentioning to Dana just this weekend that certain stories are like my anti-kink. I read them, and they push none of my buttons, even though there are elements that have worked for me in the past. In fact, I read these stories and my buttons say, "We're rethinking our buttonosity."


Consuela - Feb 05, 2006 11:17:45 am PST #1776 of 10434
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

In fact, I read these stories and my buttons say, "We're rethinking our buttonosity."

Heee.

I think I like a little more story with my kink, you know? Plausible deniability of kink. This was all kink, all the time. Plus with the questionable characterizatons and fuckedup universe. And the happy ending was just not believable.


Nutty - Feb 05, 2006 1:36:28 pm PST #1777 of 10434
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

But it's not like women are badly treated: they simply don't exist at all.

The scary part is, I've read almost that exact scenario (variations due to canon source), in XF. All the women on earth (except, inexplicably, Scully) die, and the violent sexual ownership olympics get under way!!

I would say "Oh the nostalgia" except that I don't remember it fondly in the slightest.


Consuela - Feb 05, 2006 1:42:11 pm PST #1778 of 10434
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Oh, ew.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 05, 2006 4:08:53 pm PST #1779 of 10434
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

So the majority of adult men, who would IMHO be mourning the loss of wives or steady girlfriends (not to mention their daughters, mothers, sisters, etc.), just jump as one into a planetwide Oz scenario with no hesitation? ick.


Nutty - Feb 05, 2006 4:18:23 pm PST #1780 of 10434
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Well, in the case of that XF series -- and I don't remember how many stories it was, but it was a lot more than I read -- there was, um. How to say this in a not-silly way? People had a bad habit of turning into ogres and ghouls and warlocks. In a textually (but not extratextually) not-silly way. So they were very busy with other things, and did indeed not seem to give a shit about their wives, sisters, daughters, etc.

It was a very peculiar psychological portrait of the victim-kink, nested in the middle of one of the most ridiculous plot scenarios I've come across. (That includes the "Mulder and Scully fight mastodons" scenario, as well as that Sentinel story that involves evil hyperevolved cat overlords.)