I happen to be very biteable, pal. I'm moist and delicious.

Xander ,'Bring On The Night'


What Happens in Natter 35 Stays in Natter 35  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Hil R. - Jun 04, 2005 2:06:19 pm PDT #9295 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Congrats, Stephanie! Welcome, Ellie!


Hil R. - Jun 04, 2005 2:10:10 pm PDT #9296 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Snerk. I'm looking at the Class Matters graphics and stuff on the NY Times site, and from one of those graphs, it looks like I've chosen to get my Ph. D. in one of the only fields where people with Bachelor degrees tend to earn more than people with more advanced degrees. I'd kind of known that, but hadn't actually seen it broken down like that before.

t edit: well, sort of. Looking at it some more, it's a little more complicated than that.


Trudy Booth - Jun 04, 2005 2:11:45 pm PDT #9297 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Ellie! You rocket baby! Good job!


JZ - Jun 04, 2005 2:16:11 pm PDT #9298 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Oh my goodness! Welcome, Ellie, you crazy little speed demon! And much joy in a job well done, Stephanie, and may your DH arrive soon and safe to rejoin his family.


Lee - Jun 04, 2005 2:25:32 pm PDT #9299 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Welcome, Ellie, and congratulations Stephanie and DH.


DXMachina - Jun 04, 2005 2:30:29 pm PDT #9300 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Welcome to the world, Ellie. What a wonderful surprise you'll be for your dad when he gets home. Congrats to Stephanie and DH.


vw bug - Jun 04, 2005 2:37:57 pm PDT #9301 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

Wow! It seems like just a few hours ago Stephanie was posting. Wait! That's 'cause she was!

Emily and I send our congratulations. Welcome to the world, little Ellie! We can't wait to see pictures and hear all about you.


Sophia Brooks - Jun 04, 2005 2:56:51 pm PDT #9302 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Congratulations Stephanie, DH and Ellie!


Hil R. - Jun 04, 2005 2:59:06 pm PDT #9303 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I've got a question for people who know something about gambling. I'm looking at the rules for how to play craps. Is there anything in the game that requires more than just memorizing the odds? Like, is there any time when, based on how the game is going, a particular bet is a better or worse move, or is it just the same odds every time? (All of the sets of rules I can find make it seem like it's just knowing the odds, but these rules are pretty confusingly written.)


Jessica - Jun 04, 2005 3:07:34 pm PDT #9304 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Yay Stephanie and Ellie!

ION, it really is the world's oldest profession:

The essential idea was to give a monkey a dollar and see what it did with it. The currency Chen settled on was a silver disc, one inch in diameter, with a hole in the middle -- ''kind of like Chinese money,'' he says. It took several months of rudimentary repetition to teach the monkeys that these tokens were valuable as a means of exchange for a treat and would be similarly valuable the next day. Having gained that understanding, a capuchin would then be presented with 12 tokens on a tray and have to decide how many to surrender for, say, Jell-O cubes versus grapes. This first step allowed each capuchin to reveal its preferences and to grasp the concept of budgeting.

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Santos has observed that the monkeys never deliberately save any money, but they do sometimes purloin a token or two during an experiment. All seven monkeys live in a communal main chamber of about 750 cubic feet. For experiments, one capuchin at a time is let into a smaller testing chamber next door. Once, a capuchin in the testing chamber picked up an entire tray of tokens, flung them into the main chamber and then scurried in after them -- a combination jailbreak and bank heist -- which led to a chaotic scene in which the human researchers had to rush into the main chamber and offer food bribes for the tokens, a reinforcement that in effect encouraged more stealing.

Something else happened during that chaotic scene, something that convinced Chen of the monkeys' true grasp of money. Perhaps the most distinguishing characteristic of money, after all, is its fungibility, the fact that it can be used to buy not just food but anything. During the chaos in the monkey cage, Chen saw something out of the corner of his eye that he would later try to play down but in his heart of hearts he knew to be true. What he witnessed was probably the first observed exchange of money for sex in the history of monkeykind. (Further proof that the monkeys truly understood money: the monkey who was paid for sex immediately traded the token in for a grape.)