I'll be in my bunk.

Jayne ,'War Stories'


What Happens in Natter 35 Stays in Natter 35  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Consuela - Jun 02, 2005 3:34:46 pm PDT #8855 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

That's the thing -- that kind of learned helpless leads to self-contempt, because I perceive myself as growing less competent over time.

Ah. There's also the learned helplessness which is derived from arrogance. "I am too [senior/well-educated/important] to be required to learn this. Therefore I will not learn it, will bungle it, and other people will stop asking me to do this."

One of my former coworkers was a master at this strategy. I believe he honestly thought he was too good to learn how to use a computer competently. Should have been born in the era of secretaries and dictation.

... and, er, hello, all. ::waves::


Rick - Jun 02, 2005 3:43:41 pm PDT #8856 of 10001

But wasn't there a follow up study done with people? Some sort of cognitive task and noise and the ability to switch the noise on and off. Also, if I remember correctly, it wasn't Skinner doing the experiments at all but Selig? Silig? Something like that.

Yes, in the follow-up study they used unsolvable anagrams and inescapable noise ti --then looked to see if the people got 'depressed' afterward. It was Seligman, and he is still active in research (not helpless) even though he must be into his 80's by now.

Skinner, who was chairman of my department before he went to Harvard, hated punishment, so he didn't do these studies. He thought that if you taught people to get the things they wanted by effective rewardable behavior then you wouldn't need punishment. His vision of the human ideal, engaging in effective behavior to get the things you want, was suprisingly similar to that of Freud, who said that the purpose of life was "to love and to work."


Steph L. - Jun 02, 2005 3:44:22 pm PDT #8857 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

unsolvable anagrams

KPRINKLE!


Aims - Jun 02, 2005 3:58:23 pm PDT #8858 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I don't suppose we have any accounting folk around here who could answer a question for me...

I can try, what's up?


Kristen - Jun 02, 2005 4:11:50 pm PDT #8859 of 10001

Hey Aimée! How's the little one?

So my question is regarding accrual accounting and closing out a year. Let's say that, hypothetically speaking, your fiscal year ended April 30. And you had a job that happened on April 15. Obviously, all the revenue and expenses associated with that job should be applied to the fiscal year ending April 30. But, for whatever reason, you didn't get a bill from one of your suppliers until now.

My thought process is that you pay the bill in the current fiscal year and apply it to your accrued expenses GL account. (Which you should have because, hello, you knew you used this vendor and they were going to bill you at some point even though they hadn't yet.)

Am I wrong?


Typo Boy - Jun 02, 2005 4:11:50 pm PDT #8860 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Cool. Are we going to get accounting porn?


Aims - Jun 02, 2005 4:18:01 pm PDT #8861 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Hey Aimée! How's the little one?

Shes great!! Thanks!

You are not wrong. Has the year been closed and if so, was the money accrued? If so, you should good. If not, your next year will be "off" by that amount.


Jesse - Jun 02, 2005 4:22:21 pm PDT #8862 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Ooh! I'm all excited that I actually knew the answer to that question, after my one financial class.


Kristen - Jun 02, 2005 4:25:39 pm PDT #8863 of 10001

It's a giant question mark right now. I have no idea what the person who is supposed to do the bookkeeping did in closing out the year. I just wanted to make sure I understood the way it should have been handled before going in tomorrow and talking to our accounting firm.

I'm thinking it probably wasn't done since, god knows, nothing else has been done correctly.

ETA: Thank you. (duh = me)


Aims - Jun 02, 2005 4:27:31 pm PDT #8864 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Iwent through this when I got back from maternity leave, they didn't accrue ANYTHING. Our 2005 is FUCKED.