It's like, in the middle of all this, I'm paranoid that you'll think I don't like poetry.

Buffy ,'Empty Places'


What Happens in Natter 35 Stays in Natter 35  

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§ ita § - Jun 02, 2005 12:14:59 pm PDT #8790 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

learned helplessness

Christ. I've been trying to remember this phrase for years. I think -- does it cover the scenario where if something isn't done right the first time, the subject becomes passive aggressively unable to ever do it right, regardless of the complexity?


sarameg - Jun 02, 2005 12:17:50 pm PDT #8791 of 10001

does it cover the scenario where if something isn't done right the first time, the subject becomes passive aggressively unable to ever do it right, regardless of the complexity?

I'd say so. Though I might also refer to that person as shortly-to-be-bludgeoned-to-death-with-a-nearby-object.


§ ita § - Jun 02, 2005 12:19:09 pm PDT #8792 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I might also refer to that person as shortly-to-be-bludgeoned-to-death-with-a-nearby-object

The example where I first heard the term referred to that person as "the husband."


Kat - Jun 02, 2005 12:19:23 pm PDT #8793 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

It's also for people who have few problem solving skills and need to be handheld through each of the tiniest steps of any task. repeatedly.

It's my personal buggabo these days.


§ ita § - Jun 02, 2005 12:20:39 pm PDT #8794 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's my personal buggabo these days.

You'd think that a Word document with screenshots of every step would help, right? Perhaps not, but definitely not if you never open it.


sarameg - Jun 02, 2005 12:20:42 pm PDT #8795 of 10001

The example where I first heard the term referred to that person as "the husband."

Does not bode well.


Kat - Jun 02, 2005 12:22:31 pm PDT #8796 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Ha!

See, I work with kids who ask the same questions each time. "Ms. G. We're out of tape. What should we do?"

"Well, did you look in the drawer of the student resource bin marked tape?"


§ ita § - Jun 02, 2005 12:23:46 pm PDT #8797 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I work with kids who ask the same questions each time. "Ms. G. We're out of tape. What should we do?"

It's infecting me. Why do I bother asking "Did you read the e-mail dated the 18th?" every fucking time when it's obvious they haven't? Because I'm sure, this time I'll teach them.

Oh, okay. Sure.


juliana - Jun 02, 2005 12:23:49 pm PDT #8798 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

"Ms. G. We're out of tape. What should we do?"

Good lord, you teach my co-workers.


Rick - Jun 02, 2005 12:25:34 pm PDT #8799 of 10001

I think -- does it cover the scenario where if something isn't done right the first time, the subject becomes passive aggressively unable to ever do it right, regardless of the complexity?

Yes, it is a theory of depression that says if you have repeated experiences of being unable to escape negative events then you will become passive and will no longer even try to escape them. The symptoms of depression are taken to result from this giving-up.

The theory was very popular in the 80's. Now, NSM.