Angel: Will you just shut up for once?! Illyria: What? Angel: My God, the speechifying. Has it ever occurred to you that now might not be the best time for when-we-were-muck stories?

'Time Bomb'


What Happens in Natter 35 Stays in Natter 35  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Topic!Cindy - May 02, 2005 2:26:04 pm PDT #663 of 10001
What is even happening?

Admittedly it's been years since I read Genesis, but it doesn't go into the specifics of how various animals were created like the rib bit with Eve, does it?

No, it doesn't. It doesn't put itself forth as a science book. It's telling the who and the why, not the how.

Now, I personally believe in a created Adam, and a created Eve. That doesn't mean I believe they were the only or first creatures we today would recognize as humans from fossil remains. There are two creation accounts in Genesis, one right after another. Also, there are other parts that talk about the sons of God and the daughters of men. The common parsing of that is that the sons of God were angels. I don't necessarily think that has to be the case, and often wonder if the people from created ancestors were intermingling with people who had evolved from creatures originally created as apes.

I like the part of Inherit the Wind where the Darrow character says during his crossexamination of the opposing lawyer something to the point that, since the Bible says that God didn't create the Sun and the Moon until later in the six days, that the length of "a day" before that could have been longer than the standard 24-hour one, and gets the other lawyer to admit to that possibility.

That's very much how I look at it. Per Genesis, light was first created (by God, but its source was not the sun), but the sun, moon, and stars weren't set in place until day four. Genesis is telling us that the being present at the creation it recounts was an eternal (hence timeless) being. Now, without the celestial bodies by which we finite creatures mark time, when someone who thinks he's a literalist tells me I'm supposed to believe Genesis' days 1-3 were 24 hour days, I tell them I can't, because I take the biblical account seriously, and it doesn't tell me that, and actually seems to indicate otherwise, since that by which we mark the hours wasn't yet created.


Allyson - May 02, 2005 2:26:34 pm PDT #664 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Just mail a lock of your hair to your descendants and they'll put your DNA in a blender-thing that makes a *whoosh* sound and presto! You'll be back.


Allyson - May 02, 2005 2:29:50 pm PDT #665 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Now, I personally believe in a created Adam, and a created Eve. That doesn't mean I believe they were the only or first creatures we today would recognize as humans from fossil remains.

I can't wrap my head around that, Cindy.


Kat - May 02, 2005 2:32:56 pm PDT #666 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

You'll be back.

But you might have malformations from other DNA that had been inthe blender before yours.

Not touching the topic of creationism with a ten foot poll.


Jessica - May 02, 2005 2:34:26 pm PDT #667 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

But you might have malformations from other DNA that had been inthe blender before yours.

Ewwww. Maybe I'll just have my head frozen.


Kat - May 02, 2005 2:35:14 pm PDT #668 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Brain in a jar?


Jessica - May 02, 2005 2:36:00 pm PDT #669 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Robot body.


Kat - May 02, 2005 2:36:39 pm PDT #670 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

AH! Clearly! Cause if you have a brain in a jar your BEST and possibly only body option would be a robot.


Jesse - May 02, 2005 2:36:56 pm PDT #671 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I guess I wouldn't mind seeing The Future for a while, but I wouldn't want to live a ridiculous amount of time, especially relative to my peers. It sucks watching my grandmother bury all of her friends and family.


Jesse - May 02, 2005 2:37:42 pm PDT #672 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Brain in a jar + robot body, OTOH, I could get behind.