I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly is a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.

Early ,'Objects In Space'


What Happens in Natter 35 Stays in Natter 35  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - May 02, 2005 10:49:54 am PDT #596 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Hit a bad patch, you're saying?

I meant a bad batch of patches. Which sounds like something from a Dr Seuss PMS anthology.


Gudanov - May 02, 2005 10:58:31 am PDT #597 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

I'm still unclear on why matters of science may be adjudicated by a jury.

The whole thing is just ridiculous. Why should religion be taught in science? Sure, there are still unanswered questions with evolution, but no more so than cosmology and yet no one advocates teaching supernatural causes for cosmic expansion.


brenda m - May 02, 2005 10:59:28 am PDT #598 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I do! Or I will, if it means I get to make shit up and warp the childrens.


Jessica - May 02, 2005 11:01:41 am PDT #599 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

and yet no one advocates teaching supernatural causes for cosmic expansion.

Is the anti-evolution lobby okay with cosmic expansion? Or is it just that cosmology isn't taught in high school in the same depth that biology is? (This is a serious question.)


Steph L. - May 02, 2005 11:02:05 am PDT #600 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

re: last week's Eyes:

and I was totally surprised by jeff telling Harlen about Nora. Esp. since I have decided he can do no good. Nora confuses me.

I thought it seemed really abrupt and ass-pull-y. Like, nothing really happened in the episode that made me think, "Oh, NOW Jeff will tell Harlan about Nora!"

I was also surprised -- in the good way -- when FBI dude asked black-guy-with-freaky-eyes out on a date.

And I am a TOTAL Meg/cute tech guy 'shipper. LOVE.


§ ita § - May 02, 2005 11:04:31 am PDT #601 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I wasn't surprised by the gay date -- kinda chastened, in fact. Because I really wanted it to happen, and felt all subversive and slashy about it. Oh, canon, you say? I guess that can still be fun, plus more visual.


Jessica - May 02, 2005 11:04:36 am PDT #602 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

ike, nothing really happened in the episode that made me think

Right before that scene, DH and I were wondering why Jeff was still around, when he really should have been killed off in the pilot. I guess now we know.

I was also surprised -- in the good way -- when

Me too. He's my favorite character.

[eta: Did it seem to anyone else like we missed an episode? The relationship between Harlan and Leslie seemed to have skipped a step.]


sumi - May 02, 2005 11:10:08 am PDT #603 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

And I am a TOTAL
Meg/cute tech guy 'shipper. LOVE.

Yes!

Okay, they surprised me with the gay feebie date-thing, but I guess I wasn't paying enough attention. Also, Jeff telling Harlan about Nora -- seemed very incongruous there.


amych - May 02, 2005 11:10:24 am PDT #604 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

no one advocates teaching supernatural causes for cosmic expansion.

Nope. They just deny that it's happening at all: [link]


Hayden - May 02, 2005 11:10:26 am PDT #605 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Re: Kansas wingnuts.

Did you read the interview with Richard Dawkins in Salon today?

It's often said that because evolution happened in the past, and we didn't see it happen, there is no direct evidence for it. That, of course, is nonsense. It's rather like a detective coming on the scene of a crime, obviously after the crime has been committed, and working out what must have happened by looking at the clues that remain. In the story of evolution, the clues are a billionfold.

There are clues from the distribution of DNA codes throughout the animal and plant kingdoms, of protein sequences, of morphological characters that have been analyzed in great detail. Everything fits with the idea that we have here a simple branching tree. The distribution of species on islands and continents throughout the world is exactly what you'd expect if evolution was a fact. The distribution of fossils in space and in time are exactly what you would expect if evolution were a fact. There are millions of facts all pointing in the same direction and no facts pointing in the wrong direction.

British scientist J.B.S. Haldane, when asked what would constitute evidence against evolution, famously said, "Fossil rabbits in the Precambrian." They've never been found. Nothing like that has ever been found. Evolution could be disproved by such facts. But all the fossils that have been found are in the right place. Of course there are plenty of gaps in the fossil record. There's nothing wrong with that. Why shouldn't there be? We're lucky to have fossils at all. But no fossils have been found in the wrong place, such as to disprove the fact of evolution. Evolution is a fact.