Let him do his thing, and then you get him out. No messing with him for laughs.

Mal ,'Ariel'


What Happens in Natter 35 Stays in Natter 35  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Connie Neil - May 20, 2005 7:09:55 am PDT #5787 of 10001
brillig

Dad is doing well and likely to get to go home tomorrow

Hubby's been in an out of the hospital for these things in one day--granted we went in at 3 AM and were home by the evening news, but one day is one day.

It just amazes me that something that involved multi-day stays in major care sections twenty years ago can be dealt with so simply now.


sarameg - May 20, 2005 7:13:14 am PDT #5788 of 10001

Cause really? I'm just in it for the pretty.

I think this may have been my problem. For some inexplicable reason, I was actually paying attention, which I have to admit I mostly don't. Usually, it's for the the wigs and booms. I probably should have been watching Frontline instead.


Nutty - May 20, 2005 7:15:04 am PDT #5789 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

At what point does something cease being derivative and becomes simply a part of culture?

90+ years after it is published, or after enough change to the original that it is considered a different work. Copyright isn't like the Kleenex or Aspirin trademark; it's still under ownership until the right expires or is specifically waived.

Which is to say, you can refer to a copyrighted thing for free, but actually quoting from it is where the money comes in. If the actors in Reign of Fire had actually called the black knight Darth Vader, and recited text word-for-word, some lawyer somewhere would at least have had impure thoughts about royalty payments. But because it was vagued up so much, it shared more in common with Star Wars's not-copyrightable sources than with Star Wars.

Every time somebody on a movie screen sings "Happy Birthday," some foundation in the midwest gets a HUGE fee. Yes, "Happy Birthday" is under copyright protection, and the owners of that right charge massive amounts for each use in print or other media.


Dana - May 20, 2005 7:19:17 am PDT #5790 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

MALORY: I think it's sweet that you and your partner sing to each other on television. Others may think it's vaguely gay, but I disagree.

DAN: Thank you.

MALORY: Nonetheless, you can't do it anymore.

DAN: Why not?

MALORY: It's against the law.

DAN: It's against the law to be vaguely gay?

***

DAN: It's against the law to sing "Happy Birthday" on television?

MALORY: Federal copyright law.

DAN: "Happy Birthday" is protected material?

MALORY: Yes.

DAN: Who holds the copyright on "Happy Birthday"?

MALORY: Mildred and Patty Hill.

DAN: Who are they?

MALORY: The authors?

DAN: The authors.

MALORY: They wrote it.

DAN: They wrote the song.

MALORY: Did you think that song just happened?

DAN: Well...yeah.


Jessica - May 20, 2005 7:19:31 am PDT #5791 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

but actually quoting from it is where the money comes in

But it has to be a relatively substantial quote. I don't think you can be sued just for having a character say "Luke, I am your father."

Every time somebody on a movie screen sings "Happy Birthday," some foundation in the midwest gets a HUGE fee.

This is why so many movies have characters singing "For S/He's a Jolly Good Fellow" instead.


Jessica - May 20, 2005 7:21:18 am PDT #5792 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

From the "I Really Don't Want To Be At Work Today" files, here is a Wooden iPod Case


Gudanov - May 20, 2005 7:21:41 am PDT #5793 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

I find the political controversy about Star Wars III kinda funny.

[link]

I believe the conservative site "Free Republic" is also calling for a boycott since they consider Lucas anti-american.


Jessica - May 20, 2005 7:24:04 am PDT #5794 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

"Free Republic" is also calling for a boycott

Yeah, good luck with that.


§ ita § - May 20, 2005 7:26:20 am PDT #5795 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

    • I like Jeans Friday
    • God save me from developers who want to assume that any given variable can just be made into a constant
    • God save me from co-workers who need to woefully talk comment on what I'm eating.
    Your size? Not my problem.
    • Co-workers who don't answer my e-mails need to be TASERed.


Connie Neil - May 20, 2005 7:28:43 am PDT #5796 of 10001
brillig

I find the political controversy about Star Wars III kinda funny.

As if it wasn't established 30 years ago that the freedom-loving Republic was betrayed and brought down so that a power-mad Emperor could take control.