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What Happens in Natter 35 Stays in Natter 35  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Topic!Cindy - May 18, 2005 10:15:07 am PDT #5304 of 10001
What is even happening?

Opportunity lost. I should have said the Republicans were being as dirty as a dirty bomb.


Calli - May 18, 2005 10:16:13 am PDT #5305 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

recently the republicans have tried to move away from that phase and accuse Democrats of calling it the nuclear option.

This is the party that back-dated the 2001 stock market drop by a couple of years, so I'm not terribly suprised.


tommyrot - May 18, 2005 10:19:00 am PDT #5306 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Yeah. And the party that denied that they ever said that Iraq was an immediate threat.


-t - May 18, 2005 10:26:30 am PDT #5307 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

There's a passport season?


Gudanov - May 18, 2005 10:31:40 am PDT #5308 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Yeah. And the party that denied that they ever said that Iraq was an immediate threat.

Don't you remember Colin Powell's speech at the U.N. about how we needed to bring democracy and freedom to Iraq?


TomW - May 18, 2005 10:41:44 am PDT #5309 of 10001
"The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be."

The "nuclear option" also refers to the *way* in which the republicans are planning to remove the filibuster. Instead of putting it forward as a rule change, which would require a 2/3rds majority, they'll get Cheney to declare the filibuster unconstitutional and then "uphold" his ruling, which only requires 51 votes.


Calli - May 18, 2005 10:45:40 am PDT #5310 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

they'll get Cheney to declare the filibuster unconstitutional

I think we should require proof that Cheney's actually read the Constitution before he can do this. There could be a quiz and everything.

Seriously, though, doesn't the Supreme Court have the final say on whether something's unconstitutional?


Kathy A - May 18, 2005 10:49:35 am PDT #5311 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Frank Gorshin died. R.I.P, Riddler! (His last filmed appearance is on this Thursday's CSI, if you're interested.)


Nora Deirdre - May 18, 2005 10:51:25 am PDT #5312 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Hey, that's my husband! Hi!

(yes, I'm stupidly happy to see him- It's like running in to him unexpectedly at work!)


Nutty - May 18, 2005 10:52:23 am PDT #5313 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

The real trouble with the nuclear option is that it destroys the only hiding spot for moderates within the republican party. When it becomes a straight up/down vote on every issue, then the swing voters have a lot more pressure on them. Because, like, they might swing. Actually, looked at from another angle, it gives the moderate Rs a lot more power, doesn't it?

Watch: soon road projects in Maine and Arizona will be funded. They'll change their minds about closing the Portsmouth Shipyard. It'll be a whole big bribery thing.