We die horribly and painfully, you go to hell and I spend eternity in the arms of baby Jesus.

Gunn ,'Not Fade Away'


What Happens in Natter 35 Stays in Natter 35  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Hayden - May 02, 2005 7:09:02 am PDT #518 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I like the Element, but it has the same problem that almost any potential minivan replacement has. The highway mileage would not be enough of an improvment to overcome the cost of changing things and the loss of cargo space and seat space. The minivan typically gets 23 - 25 mpg on a trip, but even at 30mpg, we just don't save enough money to cover the cost of getting something else. Plus, the van is under warrenty, and has gobs of space.

I hear you. We're just starting to deal with the possibility that our next car will, in all likelihood, be a minivan.

One of the big minuses of the Element that I was going to mention is the way the doors open. Because they both swing outward, there's simply no room to get into the back in tight spaces, which is a little inconvenient when, say, you have an infant in a car seat with you.


msbelle - May 02, 2005 7:09:50 am PDT #519 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I am looking online at pink flowering trees that I can buy for my building's garden. trees are expensive.


Hayden - May 02, 2005 7:12:13 am PDT #520 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

They are indeed.


Gudanov - May 02, 2005 7:14:41 am PDT #521 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

One of the big minuses of the Element that I was going to mention is the way the doors open. Because they both swing outward, there's simply no room to get into the back in tight spaces

Those big sliding doors in minivans are wonderful for dealing with car seats. Right now we have the van in kid limo mode with the second row of seats out and the kids in the rear row with a cavern of space ahead of them.


Hayden - May 02, 2005 7:18:14 am PDT #522 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Right now we have the van in kid limo mode with the second row of seats out and the kids in the rear row with a cavern of space ahead of them.

I'd probably want to do something like that. When we were thinking about the Matrix or Forester, the close proximity of back seat to front seat seemed like an open invitation for a toddler to kick the driver. 'Course, with Li'l Jandek only three months old now, we're looking forward a bit.


sarameg - May 02, 2005 7:18:38 am PDT #523 of 10001

Blizzard trees!

(still can't figure out what they are)


juliana - May 02, 2005 7:18:52 am PDT #524 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

trees are expensive.

That's why they charged the people a dollar and a half just to see 'em.


shrift - May 02, 2005 7:19:16 am PDT #525 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I had three disastrous situations pre-lunch, and post-lunch, it took me five minutes to resolve all of them. Is this proof that my intelligence increases exponentially when you feed me, or just another example of why I shouldn't attempt problem-solving while suffering from low blood sugar?


Fred Pete - May 02, 2005 7:22:26 am PDT #526 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

I am looking online at pink flowering trees that I can buy for my building's garden. trees are expensive.

I'm a fan of crepe myrtles, myself -- some types have pink blossoms.

Though I'm not sure how far north they can thrive.


tommyrot - May 02, 2005 7:41:19 am PDT #527 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I had three disastrous situations pre-lunch, and post-lunch, it took me five minutes to resolve all of them. Is this proof that my intelligence increases exponentially when you feed me, or just another example of why I shouldn't attempt problem-solving while suffering from low blood sugar?

Hmmm.

I'm still pre-lunch, so I can't help you.