It's all about choices, Faith. The ones we make, and the ones we don't. Oh, and the consequences. Those are always fun.

Angelus ,'Smile Time'


What Happens in Natter 35 Stays in Natter 35  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - May 17, 2005 11:57:34 am PDT #5016 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think expensive is equated with high class as the general concept of social class in the U.S.

But that's precisely the point that Jessica is questioning.


Jessica - May 17, 2005 12:00:04 pm PDT #5017 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I think expensive is associated with high-class. Not equated.


Jesse - May 17, 2005 12:01:00 pm PDT #5018 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Obviously, money is a big part of class, but when you talk about bling -- do people think that famous rappers with platinum teeth and diamond everything are upper-class? They're just rich.


sumi - May 17, 2005 12:05:42 pm PDT #5019 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Mt Rainier is the 3rd most dangerous volcano?


Atropa - May 17, 2005 12:09:09 pm PDT #5020 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Mt Rainier is the 3rd most dangerous volcano?

Yep. Something that Pete tries not to think about.


Lee - May 17, 2005 12:09:54 pm PDT #5021 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

This just in: different search engines do things differently: [link]

Who knew?


Nutty - May 17, 2005 12:10:01 pm PDT #5022 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I always vaguely thought that "class" means cultural touchstones, which can be determined by money, but aren't necessarily. Any shmuck with $1000 can travel to Europe; but people take different things away from a European voyage depending on the programming of their parents/friends/coworkers.

I come from museum-goers, e.g. You go to a city, you find out what museums it has, just automatically. Others would be finding out what sporting event is going on that weekend, or where the best food is, or the wildest parties.

Among two museum-default people, I have seen money be a power issue, and a divider; but if you default to different things, it's less clear where the power/dividing line is.


Gudanov - May 17, 2005 12:10:23 pm PDT #5023 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

I think we may be talking about different applications of class. I'm thinking of when the population is divided into classes (like Lower Class, Middle Class, Upper Classes etc...) that the divisions are determined by wealth. When an area is called upper class or middle class, it is determined by the value of the houses. I just think that when class is discussed as social groups, it is divided by income, wealth, price, etc... It almost always comes down to money. I don't think that is quite the same definition of class as applied to individuals.


msbelle - May 17, 2005 12:10:35 pm PDT #5024 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

L'il Jon has class up the wazoo.


Stephanie - May 17, 2005 12:11:07 pm PDT #5025 of 10001
Trust my rage

Kat, I hadn't seen that article but I enjoyed reading it. I'm glad they will let us have Dr. McDreamy for a while.