Wesley: And how does your kind define love? Demon: Same as all bodies. Same as everywheres. Love is sacrifice.

'The Girl in Question'


What Happens in Natter 35 Stays in Natter 35  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - May 17, 2005 10:31:05 am PDT #4947 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

It has been explicitly stated in the show that the Araz family is Muslim.

The 24 website, in describing Marwan's organization, explicitly references Al Qaeda as a model.


Topic!Cindy - May 17, 2005 10:32:58 am PDT #4948 of 10001
What is even happening?

He's having muscle spasms in his lower back. We had one of those weekends. He worked over night, for a total of about 18 hours from Thursday night to Friday morning, which helped nothing. Then Saturday, he was at Ben's game, and stood the whole time. That afternoon, he spent bent over, putting together a basketball hoop, for Ben. Saturday is also the day Julia scratched her cornea. He took her to the E.R. around 8ish on Saturday night, and they were there until 1:30, Sunday morning. While there, she kept wanting to go up on some little platform, and he would lift her, and take her off. He carried her in, and up the stairs (outside and in) when they got home. He knew he was hurting Sunday morning, but it just got progressively worse.

The expiration date on the muscle relaxers isn't until August. They do seem to work, although they are slower to work than he'd like. I think part of the problem yesterday was that he didn't keep up on them and the Ibuprofen, and waited too long to take them.


§ ita § - May 17, 2005 10:33:08 am PDT #4949 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I find your second point more convincing than the first (just because they are something doesn't mean that's what's the driver). I just don't get the aversion to being clear in the show.


Connie Neil - May 17, 2005 10:34:27 am PDT #4950 of 10001
brillig

So which one is higher class: a poor person who like opera or a rich person who likes midget mud wrestling?

Being a poor person currently wearing a Utah Opera t-shirt, I'm voting for the first one. (My god, was it 5 years ago I saw Tosca? Stupid lowest-common-denominator-scheduling fine arts board. I don't want to see the Utah Symphony doing Broadway show tunes!)


Gudanov - May 17, 2005 10:34:28 am PDT #4951 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Well, lots of back-ma to Scott.


Jessica - May 17, 2005 10:35:48 am PDT #4952 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

just because they are something doesn't mean that's what's the driver

Oh, I agree. I was responding to -t's information from TVTome.


sumi - May 17, 2005 10:36:19 am PDT #4953 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I didn't notice that there is an average on the left-hand side. Mine is the 46th percentile - -which is middle, I think.


-t - May 17, 2005 10:37:15 am PDT #4954 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Thanks, Jessica. I can't remember what conclusions I drew, much less what was actually stated in the show.


Betsy HP - May 17, 2005 10:38:08 am PDT #4955 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I think in the American class system, money trumps everything else. For instance, Donald Trump is higher up in the tree than a starving English Ph.D, even though DT is totally classless.


beth b - May 17, 2005 10:38:55 am PDT #4956 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

he might want some time alone, Cindy. too many people around when I am in pain makes it worse for me.

the class thing is very straight lined. because the job of a librarian is fairly middle of the road prestige wise. unless you are way up there in the high prestige area - then haveing a wife in a service /education industry - esp. part tiem and the family prestige goes up.