People are more outraged by women getting raped than they are by women getting forced to pick chocolate. (And they used to be even more outraged by white women being raped, hence "white slavery".)Right, which is exactly what's so offensive about it.
Mal: We're still flying. Simon: That's not much. Mal: It's enough.
'Serenity'
What Happens in Natter 35 Stays in Natter 35
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Topic!Cindy - May 12, 2005 8:39:38 am PDT #3623 of 10001
What is even happening?
Jesse - May 12, 2005 8:39:49 am PDT #3624 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Right. "Regular" slavery didn't used to be outrageous in polite company. But "good" white woman being abducted and abused?!?!?!??! The horror.
§ ita § - May 12, 2005 8:42:50 am PDT #3625 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I do think forced prostitution is of a different character than forced manual labour. And I don't think distinguishing between the two makes one seem like a walk in the park in comparison.
The race thing, obviously, gets right the fuck up my nose.
Jesse - May 12, 2005 8:44:50 am PDT #3626 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
I'm with ita. They are different things. Both bad, but different. We need more words in this damn language.
bon bon - May 12, 2005 8:49:24 am PDT #3627 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
The third hit for me was a magazine article in which the author discussed my research on the dangers of alcohol abuse. The fourth hit pulled up several pictures of me, very drunk, at a high school reunion. Cruel juxtaposition is the way of the Google.
This is hysterical.
Topic!Cindy - May 12, 2005 8:52:23 am PDT #3628 of 10001
What is even happening?
I do think forced prostitution is of a different character than forced manual labour.Sure. If I were forced to pick one, I'd rather do the manual labor.
And I don't think distinguishing between the two makes one seem like a walk in the park in comparison.No, you're right. I have as much of a problem calling forced prostitution "sexual slavery" because it is forced. Rape is violent assault focused on and/or committed via sexual organs, but it feels important to me to keep rape and sex as separate as possible.
The race thing, obviously, gets right the fuck up my nose.Yeah, it sure does. It isn't a term I've had much contact with, and I guess I'd just never thought about it. I've probably read it more here at b.org, in a couple of years than I have read/heard it in the rest of my life before that. All the evil inherent in the term just slapped me across the face.
§ ita § - May 12, 2005 8:58:38 am PDT #3629 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I have as much of a problem calling forced prostitution "sexual slavery" because it is forced.
I don't see the problem -- isn't forced inherent in slavery?
Betsy HP - May 12, 2005 9:00:33 am PDT #3630 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
Unfortunate themes for Young Women's Church Camp:
To Know Ewe Is To Love Ewe.
I suppose that's one approach to chastity.
sumi - May 12, 2005 9:05:45 am PDT #3631 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!
I only used the term "white slavery" because of the Teppy thing.
I'll let you known when I find a story about an actual internet ax murderer.
If I find an actual internet ax murderer myself.
Well, I'll probably be unable to post about it.
Fred Pete - May 12, 2005 9:11:30 am PDT #3632 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.
To Know Ewe Is To Love Ewe.
I suppose that's one approach to chastity.
...for those who don't have access to mules.