And now my boy's in love. All hearts and flowers. But, doesn't it freak you out that she used to change your diapers? I mean, when you think about it, the first woman you boned is the closest thing you've ever had to a mother. Doing your mom and trying to kill your dad. Hm. There should be a play.

Angelus ,'Damage'


What Happens in Natter 35 Stays in Natter 35  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


P.M. Marc - May 04, 2005 1:57:20 pm PDT #1369 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

(Sits in corner with Tommyrot)

So, pros and cons question: new car. Well, new to us car.

Which is less sane: attempting to survive in a '98 Civic HB, 130k miles, no A/C, but paid for, with a new baby, or selling the Civic, adding to our debt, and driving something with four doors and A/C for a change.

I'm really, really torn. The Civic is decidedly not the best car for putting a carseat into, and the rear seat gets far too warm for comfort, even with the windows down, which I realize is only going to get worse as it gets warmer out.

But... paid for. Owned. By us. Not a bill, except when things need tuning.


Betsy HP - May 04, 2005 1:59:54 pm PDT #1370 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

My suggestion would be to stick to the Civic until you can't stand it any more. Which may be July, but at least that's two more months you can save.


Gudanov - May 04, 2005 2:01:38 pm PDT #1371 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

If you get a small used car with A/C and four doors it might be all that bad to pay for. I suspect you can find something without a lot of miles for 6-7k as long as you don't mind some unglamorous nameplates.


P.M. Marc - May 04, 2005 2:10:32 pm PDT #1372 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

If you get a small used car with A/C and four doors it might be all that bad to pay for.

We're back to thinking seriously about a TDI, on account of fuel prices, which means we're looking at about 11-12k for a car. We can probably get 4k in the Seattle area for the Civic. It's possible that we can put an additional grand towards the replacement car, leaving us with 6-7k to finance. If we do get something, we plan on having it at least as long as we've had the Civic (which Paul bought new), so we don't really want to go much older than 3/4 years.

For some reason, used cars--esp. imports--seem to cost more in Seattle than in the rest of the country. It's most annoying.

Feh.

If the Civic had A/C, I'd just suffer the pains of getting the baby in and out of the thing until the car crumbled to dust.


P.M. Marc - May 04, 2005 2:14:19 pm PDT #1373 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I suspect you can find something without a lot of miles for 6-7k as long as you don't mind some unglamorous nameplates.

The only things that show up in that price range with low miles have horrible repair records without the benefit of the TDI's MPG.


Gudanov - May 04, 2005 2:15:58 pm PDT #1374 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

For some reason, used cars--esp. imports--seem to cost more in Seattle than in the rest of the country. It's most annoying.

You can probably pick up something like Ford Escort pretty cheap, they are dirt cheap everywhere. The big knock would be that can be camshaft problems with the DOHC engine, but the sedans don't have that engine.


DavidS - May 04, 2005 2:16:48 pm PDT #1375 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Four doors is easier with babies - no question. That noted, Emmett was carted around in a two-door car his whole baby-life (no AC either) and it was fine. We didn't really take the baby seat out once it went in.


Gudanov - May 04, 2005 2:19:22 pm PDT #1376 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Dodge Neons tend to be pretty cheap too but ya gotta stick with the current generation (2001+) to avoid head gasket problems with the previous generation.

But they wouldn't be as nice as a Volkswagen TDI.


P.M. Marc - May 04, 2005 2:21:41 pm PDT #1377 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

That noted, Emmett was carted around in a two-door car his whole baby-life (no AC either) and it was fine. We didn't really take the baby seat out once it went in.

We have a Snug Ride, and remove it from the base every time we use it. The base stays attached, but the seat itself comes out. What sort of weather were you looking at when he was in babydom?

Still looking at cars. Precious little available in a manual. (We don't drive automatics. Neither of us can stand them. They make us twitch.)


Gudanov - May 04, 2005 2:24:05 pm PDT #1378 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Precious little available in a manual.

That makes it tough. I like manuals too, and they are always in short supply. Forget the Ford Escort suggestion then, I don't then they made manuals after 1999.