(I also have no cleavage, because of the way they're spaced -- in a low neckline, the center of my bra will show before any breastage does. Therefore, I cannot stick anything between them and expect it to stay.)

(Me too, unless I'm corseted. I can place my fist between my boobs.)

Cleavage with natural breasts is, I think, largely a by-product of bra design.

I never worry about my nipples showing through, any more. It used to bother me, but you know what? I am a mammal. I have nipples. I don't dress to display them, but these days, my bras are all about comfort.

I am Juliana and LJ.

Why is it lately that I only speak up when the topic involves boobs?

Nora, do you think if someone started on the "for the rest of your life" phase of South Beach, that she'd eventually see results?

You mean weight loss? I guess it depends on how many actual calories you consume vs. how many you burn. But as far as health and cholesterol go, and blood sugar highs and lows, I'd say yes (though I am not a doctor.) The thing about it is that it creates a more stable blood sugar, so you're not as victim to sugar cravings and stuff. Well, for me, anyway.

I certainly don't stick to it all the time, but that's OK for me; it's more a starting off point, and when I do deviate (drinking beer, having a decadent dessert) I have awareness of what I'm eating, and I try not to "blow it" on junk food that's bad for me PLUS isn't even that good-tasting.

I just like it as a jumping off point, because it's healthy feeling, and we end up eating really well. Fresh produce, lean meats, lots of bean/legumes, whole grains (including brown rice, whole wheat couscous, oatmeal, whole wheat pasta).

That reminds me, Farmers Market starts TODAY! I'm going to eat every veggie they have there, this summer. YUM!

I mean, I'm still big as a house, but I'm eating more or less OK, and that's pretty much my goal.

Cleavage with natural breasts is, I think, largely a by-product of bra design.

I've not yet met a bra that can give me cleavage. Grand Canyonage, yes, but not cleavage. Corsets can, because of the squish factor. So I think it's also where the breasts are placed on the ribcage and the size of the ribcage.

Why is it lately that I only speak up when the topic involves boobs?

Because boobs are fun? They really are.

Cleavage with natural breasts is, I think, largely a by-product of bra design

Huh. I have spent 26 years not realizing this, and occasionally being jealous of cleavagey women. So a Wonderbra or corset would do it?

(Me too, unless I'm corseted. I can place my fist between my boobs.)

I just checked (as I'm sure a lot of other people did) -- okay, I didn't actually make a fist and stick it between my boobs, as I'm at work, but I discreetly tugged my shirt away from my chest and looked down at the girls.

I have a fair amount of space between the girls. It would require a corset to give me cleavage that could hold a beer/shot glass/pez dispenser.

[edited to remove egotistical photo with the power to make eyes bleed]

My pen just ran out of ink while writing my last course evaluation. Now, this would not be significant, except that this is the pen I've had ALL semester for school. It saw me through! My psych prof told me this morning that it's a symbol of the semester and getting through. She told me I should frame it. Hee!

I've not yet met a bra that can give me cleavage. Grand Canyonage, yes, but not cleavage. Corsets can, because of the squish factor. So I think it's also where the breasts are placed on the ribcage and the size of the ribcage.

Oh, yeah. I just meant I think few racks that haven't been surgically enhanced, give the cleavage effect without support of one kind or another, unless you're squeezing your tits together, with your arms.

Huh. I have spent 26 years not realizing this, and occasionally being jealous of cleavagey women. So a Wonderbra or corset would do it?

I would think so. You'll have to try on different styles of bras and/or corsets to see. If your breasts are really widely spaced, you're not going to have the kind of cleavage that looks like two balls placed next to each other, but you'll still get some effect.

If you're looking for it, go shopping and try on a lot of different styles. I can't really wear Wonderbras well, but it doesn't sound to me like I'm built like you or juliana. It doesn't take much to give me at least a little cleavage. Demi-bras can give cleavage, too. [link]

Look at that page. Do you see how the bras are cut, near the outer side (from nearest the armpit, down)? I can't describe it well, but they're basically less round, or sit more on the outside of the breasts, and so they angle your breasts up and in. Hence cleavage.

Because boobs are fun?

They really are.

I've always had a lot of space between the girls too, and wonderbras help push them together a little. I'm assuming a corset would do more, but I've never worn more.

Also, Juliana, will you remind me sometime soon that I need to start making plans for Halloween?