Hey! What a surprise! Hostile 17! Can I get you a drink, Hostile 17?

Xander ,'Dirty Girls'


Spike's Bitches 23: We've mastered the power of positive giving up.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


lisah - Apr 22, 2005 6:30:57 am PDT #5128 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

I do the same thing with mashed sweet potatoes.

oh my that sounds so good!

I think I may have to BK for lunch. Terrible for me but deliciously salty.


Steph L. - Apr 22, 2005 6:32:18 am PDT #5129 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

In the "Dude, That's a Little Unfair" category....

You know how patients who participate in drug studies are often compensated, or at the very least, never have to pay for the drug while they're in the study?

I'm editing an article about the effect of certain drugs (antidepressants, diabetes drugs, etc.) on people who are in a weight-loss program. [The drugs are medications that the patients were already taking, not something the study put them on just to study it.]

As part of the article, the authors list what criteria kept a patient out of the program (like extremely poor health, active eating disorder, etc.). One of the exclusionary criteria was "Unwilling or unable to pay the $200 program fee."

Dude. This was NOT a commercial weight-loss program like WW or Jenny Craig. It was a medical study! And they wanted the guinea pigs to PAY for the right to be guinea pigs?

Uncool, mang. Uncool.


brenda m - Apr 22, 2005 6:37:19 am PDT #5130 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

That's really fucked up, Steph. I'm not sure that wouldn't mess with the validity of the sample, for that matter. Certainly it's introducing an income-level variable.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 22, 2005 6:38:42 am PDT #5131 of 10001
What is even happening?

Why would I pay someone to study me?


brenda m - Apr 22, 2005 6:40:20 am PDT #5132 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

That's possibly an even bigger variable. I'm guessing that people willing to do that would tend to be more educated and informed about medical research and its importance. Otherwise why do it, since they're not getting other meds, etc. So your sample would seemed to be really skewed.


Steph L. - Apr 22, 2005 6:46:48 am PDT #5133 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Yup. This is what I'm saying. I'm not sure why we're publishing it, b/c the results don't seem very unbiased.


-t - Apr 22, 2005 6:47:49 am PDT #5134 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That's weird, Steph. Though I think my parents paid to be in a program that was also a study because they were fairly sure they would get a lot of beneit out of it (reversing heart disease, Ornish). That seemed reasonable at the time.

Susan, I'm sorry you haven't heard from the contest, but winning contests isn't your goal, publishing your book is. It would have been nice to get some validation, but I doubt the judges are going to give you terrible feedback and advise you to stop writing right now. And even if they do (which they won't), screw them, what do they know?


Nora Deirdre - Apr 22, 2005 6:54:23 am PDT #5135 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

OK, we have signed the P&S and left a very large check with it. Eek! Thanks for the house~ma, and I'm sorry for grumpiness.

It's a nice day out. I came into work late, and am thinking about leaving early (I have enough OT hours to cover this plan) Tom and I may hang out with my high school ex-BF tonight. Weird!


Maria - Apr 22, 2005 7:00:10 am PDT #5136 of 10001
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

Susan, I'm sorry about the contest. When you're a published novelist, you can look back and say "told ya so."

Nora, I love your tag. (For posterity's sake, it's "OMGWTFing.") Congratulations to you and Tom, and what grumpiness? You were making a major purchase. A freak-out is warranted.

(I have enough OT hours to cover this plan)

What does it say about me that I saw "OT" and immediately thought "off-topic"? Then my brain woke up from its nap and realised that didn't make sense.

I'm damn glad it's Friday.


Steph L. - Apr 22, 2005 7:00:25 am PDT #5137 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

This Kikkoman ad [note: has sound] is surreal, confusing (why does the cat hang itself? did he run out of soy sauce?), and very VERY slashy. (Though Kikkoman appears to be bisexual, as we actually see him in bed with a woman.)

This does not make me want to buy soy sauce.