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Spike's Bitches 23: We've mastered the power of positive giving up.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


-t - Apr 15, 2005 7:27:11 am PDT #3784 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

It looks like verse 24 is split into two parts in the NIV, for some reason:

24 " 'Make an altar of earth for me and sacrifice on it your burnt offerings and fellowship offerings, [b] your sheep and goats and your cattle. Wherever I cause my name to be honored, I will come to you and bless you.


juliana - Apr 15, 2005 7:31:35 am PDT #3785 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

your burnt offerings and fellowship offerings, [b] your sheep and goats and your cattle.

So, you're saying God is on the Atkins diet??

(Sorry, sorry, I couldn't resist....)


-t - Apr 15, 2005 7:37:43 am PDT #3786 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That poor girl. What a terrible accident.

I'm glad you have a workable solution, Susan, even if it's not the best possible. The cluelessness of your landlord astounds me.


-t - Apr 15, 2005 7:42:05 am PDT #3787 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

So, you're saying God is on the Atkins diet??

Well, the early signs are in Genesis, wherein Cain offers God a bunch of grain and stuff, and Abel gives him a sheep, and God goes for the protein and bails on the carbs.

Kinda breaks down if you try to apply it to Isaac and Jesus, though.

Or at least gets very icky.


sumi - Apr 15, 2005 7:44:10 am PDT #3788 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Well, you know man is in the "image" of God. Doesn't mean that God=man and therefore would be less cannibalistic.

(We're getting into a weird area here. Not that this would be so unusual.)


§ ita § - Apr 15, 2005 7:47:02 am PDT #3789 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, the lady in the supermarket yesterday told me to eat more meat to get better centred (also to have more sex) and tied that to being made in not the literal image of God, but the image of his wants and desires.

Obviously Atkins.


Susan W. - Apr 15, 2005 7:49:18 am PDT #3790 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

OK. The rent money has been transferred to the power company, and our lights will stay on. Next on DH's list of asses to kick is our landlord's, and he has this idea for how to try to persuade the landlord to sell us the house at a discount based on the fact we've been here since '99--sure, he'll get less money than if he sold it on the open market, but it'd also be a lot less hassle, and he'd get the money quicker.

If somehow this could all work out to leave us owning this place, what with the nice neighbors and good-sized yard and the perfectly decent, convenient location right here in the city, it'd be the best annoying angst-producing crisis EVAH.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 15, 2005 8:17:39 am PDT #3791 of 10001
What is even happening?

Also, do you know what it means when a Bible verse is quoted with "NIV" at the end? I'm writing cover copy for a devotional, and this verse from Exodus is cited: Exodus 20:24b, NIV. I don't get the "b" or the "NIV". Could you or Cindy (or anyone else) clue me in?
Yeah, it's New International Version. If you see KJV it's King James Version. RSV = Revised Standard Version. NSRV = New Revised Standard Version. NLT = New Living Translation. There are a ton of translations in English, and a lot of abbreviations. If you need more of them explained, give a holler.

I didn't see your question about the "b" answered. If I'm being repeato girl, I'm sorry. But just in case...

The "b" afther the "24" indicates they're taking the second half of the verse.

Exodus 20:24 reads:

" 'Make an altar of earth for me and sacrifice on it your burnt offerings and fellowship offerings, your sheep and goats and your cattle. Wherever I cause my name to be honored, I will come to you and bless you.

In this case, I would imagine they're using the verse from the "Wherever I cause..." point, forward.

Sometimes, if you're reading the text, you'll see [b] or whatever, in the text. In that case the [b] would be taking you to a footnote. But when a letter is part of the verse reference notation, it's signifying you're taking the second part of the verse.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 15, 2005 8:19:35 am PDT #3792 of 10001
What is even happening?

Oh, I was being repeato girl. Sorry Susan and -t.


-t - Apr 15, 2005 8:21:27 am PDT #3793 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

You clarified my guess, Cindy. I was tricked by a footnote.