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Spike's Bitches 23: We've mastered the power of positive giving up.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Cashmere - Apr 09, 2005 12:38:36 pm PDT #2347 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

My mom used to call me about once a week to catch up when I was in college. And to make sure I wasn't dead or needed money. Daily is excessive if you're kid's out of the 8th grade.

Stephanie, if he's that nervous, can you offer to hire a doula? A professional non-doctor type support person might do him a world of good.

Ooh, this is also a very good idea.


beth b - Apr 09, 2005 1:06:15 pm PDT #2348 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I'd just send her an email everyday. say you are doing fine. if you have more than that to say - then call. Honestly, you are 23- so my idea is to take the high road - it costs nothing to send a quick email. if she emails back- skim. you know your mom and family well enough to know what is important to pay attention to. Don't waste energy on trying to change mom, it isn't going to happen. But only a serene face from you will ever convince her you are happy as things are.


Stephanie - Apr 09, 2005 1:25:26 pm PDT #2349 of 10001
Trust my rage

Stephanie, if he's that nervous, can you offer to hire a doula?

I do have a doula and she's great. I think she's the main reason I'm feeling (relatively) calm - too bad Joe can't benefit from her experience. I'm not sure Joe totally realizes that she will be there to help, however. Maybe I need to do more explaining. :)

As for the parents thing, my mom calls about once a week if I don't call her first. (Actually, these days she calls every day, but I don't mind because I'm pretty alone out here.) Joe's parents call, maybe, once a month and everyone is fine with that. Personally, I think expecting *you* to call every day, particularly when the parent is the one who wants to talk to you, is a bit controlling. If she really wants to hear your voice, or read your e-mail, every day, she should call you.


Polter-Cow - Apr 09, 2005 1:30:47 pm PDT #2350 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Personally, I think expecting *you* to call every day, particularly when the parent is the one who wants to talk to you, is a bit controlling.

My mom? Controlling? Never!

I guess I'll try the fake e-mails and see how that works.


Laura - Apr 09, 2005 1:32:24 pm PDT #2351 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

I'd just send her an email everyday

You can have a collection of pictures at the ready to send too! That way she can see for herself that you are well. Humor her, but in a way that is least burdensome to you.


DavidS - Apr 09, 2005 1:47:46 pm PDT #2352 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

One of the reasons I still want her to come to the hospital (even if Joe is there) is that I think the two of them will really benefit from having each other there.

It was me and a doula with EM during Emmett's birth. It really helped me to have somebody there who had been through many births and could give me perspective on what was happening when, and could give good advice as we came up to all the many choices you have to make while giving birth.

Doula is also nice for the mom, because most of the medical staff are kind of focused on the baby's welfare, and the doula can focus on the Mom more.

FWIW, I didn't have any problems at all during the birth. Of course, people have all kinds of different tolerances for the mess of it, but it really wasn't that bad at all. I've heard a lot of Dad's have reservations about doing it, but I've never heard of one fainting or throwing up or anything. (Though undoubtedly there are examples out there.)


Scrappy - Apr 09, 2005 2:46:01 pm PDT #2353 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

In college, I called every couple of weeks. When my dad had his second heart attack, I started calling every couple of days. Since my mom's cancer and chemo, I call 5 or 6 times a week. They aren't long calls or anything--more a "Hi, how ya doing?" kinda thing. On the other hand, I talk to my brothers maybe 6 times a year.


meara - Apr 09, 2005 3:07:09 pm PDT #2354 of 10001

I talk to my parents about once a week--if I haven't called them in about a week or so, they'll usually call me. So I try to sometimes call them, because then I don't (a) get a phone call at an inconvenient time or (b) feel guilty because I didn't answer an inconveniently-timed phone call.

But I do have friends that talk to their parents nearly every day. But they didn't to college halfway across the country and stayed here just so they wouldn't be close to my family.

I see my brother (who's in college) on IM most days. I don't actually talk to him, but I know he's THERE...I usually read his away message if he's away...

My sister, I'd like to talk to more, but somehow don't. Maybe once a month, on the phone or a long IM session.


vw bug - Apr 09, 2005 3:46:15 pm PDT #2355 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

Oh, Sean, I'm so sorry. I hope you're able to figure something out. I know this game all too well, though.

Mom was here all afternoon. We got two of the Roman shades hung, and almost the third. They look beautiful...I just love them. Tomorrow mom's coming back to finish the last shade and hang a couple of other things that I have. I love getting this stuff done. It feels so good.


Betsy HP - Apr 09, 2005 4:34:51 pm PDT #2356 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

The Guardian minute-by-minute coverage of the royal wedding is making me happy.

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2.24: The Queen has arrived, with Prince Philip in tow. See, you can tell she's important because there's only a few minutes to the kick-off. Any more important and she'd be late. She's wearing white, white hat (saucepan with feathers), white coat, and glittering broach. And black gloves. Now even without Trinny and Susannah to guide me, I know that doesn't look good.

The BBC have just bemoaned how sad it was that she 'wasn't able to attend' the registry office ceremony. Is that why she didn't go? Was she busy? She wasn't busy picking out those gloves, I tell you that much.