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Natter 34: Freak With No Name  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Emily - Apr 28, 2005 6:35:19 am PDT #9679 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Something about how your 20's or early 30's is the best time to have a baby, as the odds of getting pregnant drop off after that.

I have heard that fertility starts to drop around 27 (I heard it right around my 27th birthday, which is why I remember). Think I got that from the Globe.


JZ - Apr 28, 2005 6:36:15 am PDT #9680 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

I'm not sure a kid's popularity or unpopularity necessarily correlates with ability to play dodge ball, or any sports activity.

No, but (and I'm totally willing to de-generalize my argument, and state that this is purely anecdotal information referable only to my grammar school) in a game like dodgeball, popularity or unpopularity can easily be made to correlate to whether you're a target of a hard ball or a soft one, where you stand in the outer circle after you're hit, and whether you ever get a chance to throw the ball yourself.

At my school, the ball was always given first to some bright shiny well-dressed kid, who then either (if a good athlete) drilled some un-shiny kid in the knees or (if not a good athlete) gently lobbed the ball to someone whom s/he knew to be a good athlete and able to drill (or tossed it lightly at a best friend, tagging out the friend, who would then go and stand at his/her side in the circle).

I can recall plenty of dodgeball games in which the unpopular kids didn't get more than two throws; in a group of 20, it's very easy for 15 to gang up on 5 and keep them from ever having control of the game, and very difficult for the 5 to wrest control away, even if all 15 suck and all 5 are superb athletes (which was never the case at my school).

Again, purely anecdotal, relevant to my grammar school experience only.


Laura - Apr 28, 2005 6:39:05 am PDT #9681 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

It's also more dangerous for older women (late 30's and 40's) to have babies.

They called my pregnancies geriatric pregnancies because I was over 35. (38 & 40) No doubt I was more responsible about my medical care and physical behavior than I would have been in my 20's. The doctors made a big deal about it though.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 28, 2005 6:39:12 am PDT #9682 of 10001
What is even happening?

But my doctor did say that female fertility does drop significantly as you get into your 30's.
This is my personal hope, man.
I have heard that fertility starts to drop around 27 (I heard it right around my 27th birthday, which is why I remember). Think I got that from the Globe.
I shudder to imagine my life without contraceptives.

If the world were fair, there'd be a big, old fertility pool. Those of us who didn't need/want it, or no longer needed/wanted whatever of our fertility remains could donate to those in need. Children's fertility would be kept in the pool, until they reached the age of majority.


Nutty - Apr 28, 2005 6:40:02 am PDT #9683 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I forget the name of the organization that did the ad, but I've seen something like it before. Is this some conservative religious thing?

Sort of a weird thing to harp on for a religious organization, though, right? Like, most religions with which I'm familiar don't care if you get married at 50, but they really don't want you having kids before you get married, most of them.

Of course, the only other organization I can think of that would care is, like, the Down Syndrome And Other Mutation Disorders Correlated to Mother's Age At Conception Fund, which, most of the time Down Syndrome organizations focus more on the kisd who are alive tahn the potential kids who might join their ranks.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 28, 2005 6:40:12 am PDT #9684 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I'm still amazed that Adrienne Barbeau was able to conceive twins at 51.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 28, 2005 6:41:17 am PDT #9685 of 10001
What is even happening?

Was there medical assistance in the conception, Matt?


tommyrot - Apr 28, 2005 6:43:49 am PDT #9686 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Sort of a weird thing to harp on for a religious organization, though, right?

I wish I could remember what it was that I heard about this (it was a while back). But IIRC there are some religious conservatives who tell women stuff like this because they think women should be at home raising babies in their 20s instead of out in the workplace worrying about advancing their careers - because if they get too involved in the career track they may not get to have babies later.


Amy - Apr 28, 2005 6:44:13 am PDT #9687 of 10001
Because books.

I'm probably the most extremely-to-the-right buffista in terms of the abortion issue, and even I'm horrified hearing about what people are doing to that poor girl.

Stands with Matt. I wholeheartedly agree. As JZ and others said before, where was everyone who was supposed to be concerned for her welfare before this happened? No thirteen-year-old child should be forced to carry a baby to term against her will, and the idea that she's going to be used as the center of a new! improved! debate about right to life is criminal.

But my doctor did say that female fertility does drop significantly as you get into your 30's.

This is my personal hope, man.

Right there with you.


Nutty - Apr 28, 2005 6:47:21 am PDT #9688 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

IIRC there are some religious conservatives who tell women stuff like this because they think women should be at home raising babies in their 20s instead of out in the workplace worrying about advancing their careers

I'm not sure warning the general public that its fertility may decline is the way to go about this, actually. Because, those who don't care about religious doctrine might take the advice and go have kids (some of them potentially out of wedlock!) and raise them to not be religious. How does this help the religious people's goals? I mean, more work for them, right? With more not-religious people to have to worry about.