Sir? I think you have a problem with your brain being missing.

Zoe ,'The Train Job'


Natter 34: Freak With No Name  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Apr 22, 2005 5:16:25 am PDT #8032 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Bacon bandaids


Nutty - Apr 22, 2005 5:16:32 am PDT #8033 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

When I think about a house (actually, a condo, because I will not be able to afford a yard for decades yet), I figure in property taxes as well as the interest when counting up payments. On that assumption, even when I've saved up a 10% down-payment, I would still be paying more than double my current rent in monthly payments.

Now, as these things go, my rent is kinda low. (For one thing, flatmate.) But still -- double? Even if I waited another 3 years and had a 20% down-payment, it would still be close to double. I could go ahead and buy a bigger condo, and have a flatmate, but a bigger condo costs more.

For this reason, I am ardently expecting a crash in the local housing market any minute now. Or, preferably, in 2 years when I have amassed my down-paymetn funds in full.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 22, 2005 5:16:46 am PDT #8034 of 10001
What is even happening?

Yay for your cousin, ita!

Look at her shoulders and thighs. Her physical conditioning is obvious, even in clothing. I bet she could swing one of my kids as easily as she can swing a tennis racket.

Do you have any idea of her practice schedule and any additional work outs, she does? I can't imagine being in the short of shape that could be even hinted in a photo of that quality. I am blown away. And wait. She's 35th in singles and 16th in doubles?

Note to self: don't cross any tennis players


JohnSweden - Apr 22, 2005 5:19:17 am PDT #8035 of 10001
I can't even.

Timelies, all!

Happy Birthday, Betsy!

Too much blood in my caffeinestream. I must recalibrate.


amych - Apr 22, 2005 5:20:51 am PDT #8036 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Too much blood in my caffeinestream.

Very dangerous condition. I recommend taking immediate steps before things get any worse.


Sue - Apr 22, 2005 5:22:29 am PDT #8037 of 10001
hip deep in pie

I'm with Nutty in hopping for a housing market crash just in time for me to afford one. However, I'm sure that the housing collapse will only come with increased interest rates, which will bite me in the ass.


Fred Pete - Apr 22, 2005 5:24:03 am PDT #8038 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Happy Earth Day, All!

In honor of Earth Day, we're having a tree (autumn flame maple) planted in our yard this afternoon. Just coincidence that it's today -- we bought it a couple of weekends ago.

To complicate the real estate question even further, there are tax implications. Mortgage interest is tax-deductible if you itemize your deductions (and in many of today's real estate markets, if you can afford to buy a home, you're itemizing anyway because of state income taxes). So the real cost of that interest is (interest payment - tax deduction), or put another way, the federal government gives you back a portion (roughly 1/3, for higher tax brackets) of the amount paid in the form of lower income taxes. While you're also paying property taxes on that home, those payments are also deductible.

Alternative investments also raise capital gains tax questions. When you sell that home, you get $250,000 in capital gains tax-free ($500,000 if you're married filing jointly). And until you sell, you pay no capital gains tax whatsoever. Other investments are different -- if you use the money to buy 1000 shares of Microsoft, you also defer the capital gains tax until you sell, but you don't get that $250,000. If you put it in a mutual fund, you pay capital gains every year because mutual funds have to pay out almost all of their gains annually.

In other words, the matter is such a complicated mess that there probably isn't one right answer to buy vs. rent.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 22, 2005 5:24:44 am PDT #8039 of 10001
What is even happening?

Nutty, you can rent more cheaply than you can buy. I think, over time, you cannot rent at the same standard of living, more cheaply than you can buy, without a real estate crash. And then there are intangibles (pro and con) to both, and it is the personal weighting of the importance of those intangibles, that I think really helps the person make the decision.


Gudanov - Apr 22, 2005 5:27:01 am PDT #8040 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Here's a new concept from FoxNews

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Ooooookay.


Fred Pete - Apr 22, 2005 5:27:35 am PDT #8041 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

without a real estate crash

During the last 2 years before we sold our condo, the condo's market value went up about 40%. In the 2 years since we bought our townhouse, the townhouse's market value has gone up around 60%.

I fear a bubble and an imminent crash.